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Punish everyone else? Well, if one company is doing it, and there is not enforcement or lax enforcement due to legislation, then its a simple fix by changing the legislation, not enforcing a rule that has no real consequence. Its kinda like getting a ticket for rape, doesn't make sense right? Why would you have an almost comical penalty for breaking the law? If you were to get repeated ticket after ticket for speeding, eventually you lose your license, which is not the case with companies like this. Wal-mart can keep wrongfully firing and firing and firing every person that attempts to organize, and the only penalty they will receive is the same one they have been given. Repeat offenders get tougher and tougher sentences, why doesn't this company? And they DEFINITELY not the only company doing this. Employer scare tactics have been getting more and more bold in the last 15 years when it comes to unions, making it clear that present law isn't doing anything at all, and its becoming more of a permanent problem. Its against the law, that simple, and from what I can tell, you support it.
So what do you do with the homeless and poor who have no healthcare, food, and shelter? All Ive heard is stuff about a health-saving account, but that doesn't help the unemployed and homeless. Im still waiting for an answer to that one.
I work in a major metropolitan city. Some of these people do not. After a company like Wal-mart comes in and beats the **** out of the local business and economy of a small town, they in turn, LIKE YOU SAID, will fill the holes in the market where the business is. Except the problem is that when a company like that is the only surviving store, they have in turn made themselves a monopoly in the local area. Now the employee that was making $8.50 an hour with some decent benefits has either two choices, take the job at the huge conglomerate for a dollar less an hour and a loss of benefits, or move. What kind of decision is that? Take it or leave? This is free market capitalism. And companies like this have the ability to completely destroy towns and local economies. I know a few towns in Indiana that will not allow a Wal-mart or most any commercialized business within a mile of the incorporated limit. THEY KNOW whats going on. The problem I have is that you believe giving a company a choice of offering healthcare or getting taxed is bad, but offering a person a substandard job or another place to live is just fine and dandy.
I have a pie chart too, says something different, since yours doesn't represent spending done in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Neat huh?
I have plenty of pride for my country, including its citizens, all of them, unlike you, which hasn't a care in the world how harsh the world is to them. Remember?
BTW, in 8 years, the very organization that had attacked us still roams the globe, just as powerful as ever. Al-Quida hasn't gotten any less powerful, nor have we found Osama. In 8 years. And I had no clue he was hiding in Iraq.:rolleyes: And NOTHING you will say to me will justify being in Iraq, I don't care how whacked out Hussein was. We had no business being there. And the constitution applies to everyone, not just the people who got lucky with money. It doesn't apply to only the rich, successful, and the hard working. It applies to everyone within our borders, whether they be capitalists or socialists. DONT EVER make that mistake again to think that it only applies to you and your kind.
Fine by me. They will eventually find work elsewhere, while people that operate such companies will know that labor laws and obligations will be enforced. By allowing such a company to thrive, you allow the principles it abides by to also thrive. Those principles don't need to thrive, and if it costs the company in the end, so be it. People will no longer be exploited for cheap labor. The American workforce has worked too hard to get what they have now, there will be no way its going to go back to the way it was prior to those laws.
Honest days pay for an honest days work. This motto has been getting hazy the last two decades due to deregulation.
Im sure the poor, unemployed, under and uninsured don't share your same enjoyment of the situation.
Huh? You sure about that? I don't remember Alabama turning out more profit than Illinois, or New York for that matter. You don't see alot of new business in these states, but at the same time, you don't see alot of old business leaving either.
So because you have a problem with a company breaking laws that were put in place to protect the individual, you want to punish everyone else... The problem you presented with Wal-Mart doesn't sound like a "health-care system of the U.S." issue... once again another irrelevant example you present. You made my argument for me^ the laws protecting the individual are in place... if they aren't being enforced, that's no reason to go running into another permanent solution to a temporary problem...
If we weren't wasting so much money into these broke, socialistic programs, there would be more money available to repair the not aging, but ancient transportation infrastructure, keep parks open, and keep schools funded...
Exactly... they worked for the companies, and they get paid by the companies... you work, so you get compensated with a weekly paycheck... not every company that offers minimum wage doesn't offer health benefits... many companies do if you're a full-time employee, if people who needed these benefits didn't work at Wal-mart they wouldn't have to worry about not receiving healthcare from Wal-mart... but Wal-mart provides their employees with other benefits that are enticing to potential employees... Wal-mart doesn't force their employees to work for them... I have many problems with Wal-mart... the least of which is their so called "obligation" to pay for their employee's health care
the largest majority? umm...
Get YOUR facts straight...
Get YOUR facts straight...
Neat huh?
Was it just a d!ck waving contest when radical cowards flew two planes into the twin towers, a plane into the pentagon, and tried to fly another into God knows where had the passengers not stopped them? Is that all that was? It's amazing how short liberal's memory is? Do you have any pride for your country? I would be ashamed of myself if I made that comment... it's no wonder you have no regard for the constitution
it is no justification to feed money from the taxpayers to a failing company to protect it's employees... it's harsh, but capitalism works, it has, and if we let it... it will
So now her employees still won't have healthcare, but they also won't have jobs... BRILLIANT!!!
Right you think they should be given something for nothing...
You're right about this one... If they get everything passed, then you are correct... everything most of us have enjoyed as a result of being an American will be over
They are running, but they're running mad, not scared... they're running from the liberal run states to the conservative run states where their money will be safe from voters and politicians like you...
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