Obamacare yes or no?

[DAS BOOT]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooo

[jimmysprinkle]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

Hellmuthafukino! :rant:

Where is a detailed article on what this plan consists of?

Here ya go, cause I know you want to read all 1018 pages for some light reading

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200.IH:

[DAS BOOT]

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Where is the part where some democratic congressman gets like a $500 million grant to his best friends uncles roomates company for making toothpicks that is probalby attatched in that bill.

[vanbibber]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

absolutely not. not even with changes made to it.

[nimrod.sixty9]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

Here ya go, cause I know you want to read all 1018 pages for some light reading

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200.IH:

I shouldnt have said detailed :rolleyes:

Where is the part where some democratic congressman gets like a $500 million grant to his best friends uncles roomates company for making toothpicks that is probalby attatched in that bill.

LOL Im sure its in there! There should be some law to say that the currrent law in writing cannot contain another law that does not pertain to it..

[flamingchicken]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

noooo (1,2,3...yeah, thats five)

[Everglades W68]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

LOL - Now I'm completely off topic, but LOL at flamingchiicken:

"Now a certified dealer of TRANS-X!"

I think Trans-X fix my leaking coolant recoevery reservoi. I bet Trans-X would also fix my remote control that no longer opens the trunk/hatch and sometimes not the doors.

I really could use Trans-X also to fix my catalytic converter (I'm soon to replace it for the fourth time).

How about the window motors? Trans-X should fix those too.

I put a little Trans-X in my fuel pump and it works wonders.

I was going to replace my TCC valve in the tranny, but Trans-X fixed that too.

Oh, and don't forget the occasional T-top leak when going through a car wash - no problem with Trans-X!

I also squirted a bit of Trans-X into my 12 disk CD changer in the back - no more jamming after not using the changer for a few trips.

Squeaky driver's door? A little trans-X in there and I'm good to go.

Trans-X also removed the Sonny's BBQ sauce stain on the tranny tunnel hump by the back seats from 2001.

I put some Trans-x on the rear hatch - now it springs up strongly - no more having to pop the hatch several times to get it to release.

Trans-X caused new metal to re-grow on my brake rotors - thank you Trans-X.

I've found it also casues my 3800 Series II to grow into an LS1 when I stomp on the gas pedal.

TRANS -X: the miracle in a bottle!!!

[tkoforpresident]

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i vote negative commander and i agree with everything everglades says.

[Shirl]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

"N" "O". No.

[ssms5411]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

Reason I say yes is because my mom just had heart surgery 5 bypassses and is diabetic, her insurance ran out and now she has none and can only work part time. She has 2-3 more years until she can retire, no insurance CO. will give her a policy. The ones that do want $800-$1000 a month in preminuns, almost what she makes a month. My Dad retired and gets medical through VA, she can't get Access or like all the illegals because they own their own home is what they told her. So she has to pay out of pocket for her Dr. visits and medication which she had to order it from Canada because her in the U.S it is $1000 for a month supply , Canada it is $300 for a 90 day supply. Makes me sick she paid taxes for almost 40 years and can't get Access like all the illegals who never paid a cent into the Government eating up 300 million dollars of people who pay into the Gov. So is the Gov. policies fair for middle class , I would say no. It is almost like white Americans are the minority and it is reverse discrimination because of a hard working couple who paid off their home over 40 year period and raised 3 boys along the way.
Sorry for the rant but it just pisses me off, without her meds she would die but the Gov. doesn't care shes white and is not entitled to Gov. benefits. I told my Mom & Dad to change their last names to Garcia and maybe she would get Gov. benefits.

[nimrod.sixty9]

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^Wow, sorry to hear that man. I hate to hear of that stuff all the time. South Florida is the New Mexico - No jobs or Gov help for Americans!

Whos up for the next civil war? :D Im in!

[DAS BOOT]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

Reason I say yes is because my mom just had heart surgery 5 bypassses and is diabetic, her insurance ran out and now she has none and can only work part time. She has 2-3 more years until she can retire, no insurance CO. will give her a policy. The ones that do want $800-$1000 a month in preminuns, almost what she makes a month. My Dad retired and gets medical through VA, she can't get Access or like all the illegals because they own their own home is what they told her. So she has to pay out of pocket for her Dr. visits and medication which she had to order it from Canada because her in the U.S it is $1000 for a month supply , Canada it is $300 for a 90 day supply. Makes me sick she paid taxes for almost 40 years and can't get Access like all the illegals who never paid a cent into the Government eating up 300 million dollars of people who pay into the Gov. So is the Gov. policies fair for middle class , I would say no. It is almost like white Americans are the minority and it is reverse discrimination because of a hard working couple who paid off their home over 40 year period and raised 3 boys along the way.
Sorry for the rant but it just pisses me off, without her meds she would die but the Gov. doesn't care shes white and is not entitled to Gov. benefits. I told my Mom & Dad to change their last names to Garcia and maybe she would get Gov. benefits.

Go to the doctors, let the debt build up.

Most medical debt does not affect her credit. Do not let anyone giver her the least bit of crap care, if they do or suggest they will.


Say these exact words. "Are you denying me lifethreatening medical attention that I require based on my ability to pay?

I GURANTEE, they will do exactly what your mom needs asap, if they deny you, get it on tape and now your mothers healthcare is paid for and you know own a hospital and have millions of dollars in the bank.



This is the US, you cannot be denied required medical services based on your ability to pay(why do you think mexicans jump the border here for help, then go back home). It sucks you have to play games. But the alternative is, you still woudl be waiting to be seen by a doctor for the first time and possibly was mis diagnosed.




Once again, I had $192,000 in cancer debts, no where close to being able to pay for anything. 4 years later I am debt free(well minus student loans and car payment)




Get with a hospital social work and set up a plan to do this. Not a person from finance department that gets a bonus if you pay, but a social worker.

[ssms5411]

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We paid her out of pocket medical bills , its just the everyday meds she needs, she tried talking with social sercuity but was blown off. Her social worker for the hospital didn't do nothing just setting up how much we needed to pay. They wouldn't put her in a room until my Dad gave them $5000 up front at the hospital. I guarantte if it was a illegal they wouldn't ask for anything because they wouldn't have it. Like me I can't see this one Dr. again until I pay $210 they say I owe which I don't but I can't see him until it is cleared up and they reported me to a collections which did go against my credit.

[DAS BOOT]

Re: Obamacare yes or no?

We paid her out of pocket medical bills , its just the everyday meds she needs, she tried talking with social sercuity but was blown off. Her social worker for the hospital didn't do nothing just setting up how much we needed to pay. They wouldn't put her in a room until my Dad gave them $5000 up front at the hospital. I guarantte if it was a illegal they wouldn't ask for anything because they wouldn't have it. Like me I can't see this one Dr. again until I pay $210 they say I owe which I don't but I can't see him until it is cleared up and they reported me to a collections which did go against my credit.

Your doing it wrong, research it out, call a lawyer, you got set up on a payment plan, wasn't a social worker.


<---- 2005 3 surgeries, 12 weeks of of IN THE HOSPITAL IN A BED chemotherapy, more drugs then you can imagine.

$192,000 in debt.

2007, no debt bought a car and had a 690 Fico score(not stellar but not bad at all)



Research, figure it out, if you are getting shafted call a lawyer. They will say things like "you can't come back until you pay" Say that exact line and they will take you then and there.

[ssms5411]

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^ Thanks for the info, I will research it for her and me. Sorry OP for the Thread jack.