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i have a 97 camaro rs w/y87.. it's bluecamaro's old converter. it's a yank 2800 with a 1.9 str. and a 98% efficenty. i'm going to gainsville wensday. i still haven't mastered this converter yet. i'm on street tires. do i just flast it or stall it to around 2500 and punch it. my best 60ft to date is a 2.1. i know this converter has much more in it, but then again i'm on street tires.. any suggestions... i'm getting some DR's as soon as i get the money...
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97 CAMARO RS<br />12.9@103mph<br />best 60ft..1.9 ( on street tires)<br /> 1.7 (on gas)<br />turbo supra 12.5@119mph (street tires)<br />new times to come sporting the sp63gt -
Try different things..
flashing from idle..
flashing from 1200
flashing from 1500
flashing from 1800
flashing from 2000
My converter likes it best from about 1500.
If your not dead hooking, lower the tire PSI or get more tire.Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP -
what is flashing I know what stalling is it is where u bring rpms to givin stall. Im about to get a 2800 stall what do i do now<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport HeadersComment
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I tried stalling it and flashing it.
Mine seemed to see no different results with either method.
I just stall it to 2800 and let her rip!!!!Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yetComment
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I'm thinking about getting this converter myself. Tell me, would a 2.5 stall ratio be too high on a N/A car with 3.42 gears? Would I roast the tires easily? I don't wanna do that.<b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slacker69:
what is flashing...<hr></blockquote>
That's where you open your trenchcoat [img]smile.gif[/img] going down the track, and shock the other driver into defeat.
Seriously though, it refers to the converter suddenly going from no load to full load from the engine. In other words, mash the gas to the floor all at once, instead of easing into it. It's a little like popping the clutch in a manual. The engine spins up a little more while the converter internals start to catch up.
Holding higher rpm's before flashing trims the flash effect a little, because the converter is already starting to load up.\'98 A4 Camaro v6->v8 conversion, and STS kit next<br />v6: 13.6 Powerdyne, 13.2 150 shot, 13.8 120 shot, 14.3 85 shot, 15.7 stock<br />v8(na): 12.18@113, 392rwhp<br />Moderator on <a href=\"http://www.mtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">www.mtfba.org</a> and <a href=\"http://www.frrax.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.frrax.com</a> (Road Race & Autocross)<br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/johnduncan10\" target=\"_blank\">Car pics</a>, <a href=\"http://www.trscca.com\" target=\"_blank\">TN Region SCCA</a>Comment
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well what is better than flashing or stalling<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport HeadersComment
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Magnus said it well above. Look at his reply again, and see if it makes more sense now. Try some different techniques and see what works best for you and your tires and suspension.
Generally speaking, street tires and everything else stock, flashing from idle will give you the most tire spin (sometimes good for effect, but not good for launching).
Although I can spin my wife's Suzuki station wagon tires best by holding the rpms up, and then hitting the gas... :D
I get the best street launches (with lsd and stock 235/55's) by holding about 2000 and then flooring it. Very little spin on the street, and it is turning 4k before I know it, so I am up in the powerband right away.
I didn't experiment with it at the track yet. Only went once so far, and I was too focused on the experience, and the timing, and all the rest that goes with it.
Generally you will hook better at the track, so you can get away with flashing from a lower rpm for a bigger jolt and still not spin.\'98 A4 Camaro v6->v8 conversion, and STS kit next<br />v6: 13.6 Powerdyne, 13.2 150 shot, 13.8 120 shot, 14.3 85 shot, 15.7 stock<br />v8(na): 12.18@113, 392rwhp<br />Moderator on <a href=\"http://www.mtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">www.mtfba.org</a> and <a href=\"http://www.frrax.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.frrax.com</a> (Road Race & Autocross)<br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/johnduncan10\" target=\"_blank\">Car pics</a>, <a href=\"http://www.trscca.com\" target=\"_blank\">TN Region SCCA</a>Comment
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so it is better to flash from lower rpms then say u have a 2800 stall to hold at 2800 and floor it sorry i am just confused.<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport HeadersComment
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When you brake torque the RPM's to the stall point, you won't have a hit like you would if hte rpm's came up from down low and whacked the flash point.
You should launch harder by flashing the stall, but you might not hook it which is why its sometimes better to just stall it up there.Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HPComment
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On the V6 I usually come up the converter to about 1800-1900 RPM. This works for me. I average 1.7 60-foot times.
On the WS6 I come up the converter to about 2100-2200 RPM. This also works for me. I average low 1.6 60-foot times.
Bill Spano
BAD 2000 WS6 12.380@110.91, best 60ft 1.676 (spinning), 325 RWHP, 343.4 RWTQ (stock)
http://www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=332
V6 Revenge 13.967@90.42 60ft 1.779
http://www.mycar.net/mafb/registry/detail.cfm?id=257Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr> My converter likes it best from about 1500. <hr></blockquote>
Same here, I got my 1.76 60' with thatBolt-ons and lots of em\' <p>best ET 12.9@104mphComment
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