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**Only4U** · 12-01-2002, 12:42 AM

nah, it isn't really worth it.

the guy couldn't drive.

now that my torque converter has settled in and gotten to it's "full" (i hope) potential, i've realized my car will never be able to launch on nittos. you guys can say all you want, but i burnt them out for 10 seconds on a couple of runs and i even tried NOT stalling, just flooring it when the light turned. every time i just spun without moving, it was terrible. the first weekend after my converter was put in i ran a 1.9x 60 ft, and every time after that my nittos bog more and more and more. i thought i'd never say it, but...i can't handle the power of my torque converter :( it's too much. james might can hook with his nitto's, jeff might can hook with his bfg's, but i'm telling you, after 5 trips to the track, 20+ tries, they haven't hooked again and they aren't even coming close to hooking. it's just bad. o well, my best time was that of matt's, only a little less mph and a little better 60ft. *shrugs* i don't get cars sometime, and my car DEFINETELY doesn't want to get me across the finish line in under 15 seconds :(

**xjarayax** · 12-01-2002, 02:04 AM

Glad you ran a best Matt...was kind of a waste of money for me though, oh well...was fun.

Sam

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**nino** · 12-01-2002, 02:14 AM

i love that tracks trees, othere than that, that track sucks balls! when you ever come down to san anto, just look me up, i'll hit the track with you.

**TheBeast** · 12-01-2002, 02:18 AM

congrats man

that track is verrrry slick, those are sweet times, I think you could pull a 14 at HRP

**slacker69** · 12-01-2002, 02:24 AM

man i need to teach u how to hook those nittos an i swear u are not doing something right i can hook a 1.7 60 foot with a 75 shot of nitrous out of the hole with my converter no prob at all i Pull 1.8 60 foots na with nittos u need to be taught.

**12secondv6** · 12-01-2002, 07:31 AM

Congrats on low 15's!!!!

Hey only, it does take some practice.
I did not perfect it first time out.
I run nitto 245 50 16 drag radials.
My bird likes 20 psi in them.
I roll through the water box and just give a slight tap of the throttle.
Not too much which would cause water to spray up in the wheel wells though.
I roll out
Hit the line locks and start spinning the tires.
I completely ignore the flaggers guy who tells you when to go.
I spin, and spin and spin
I wait until I see smoke from both sides
Once I see this I usually count to about 8 seconds of white smoke
I then let off the line locks and floor it
The car spins until the tires just grab
Don't just let off, this is how parts break
I then stall up the converter to 2800-2900 rpm's and let her rip

When you stage make sure you are in the groove

For traction (and not best times) you could fill up the gas tank completely full and reduce according to traction.

What suspension set up do you have?
Track prep also plays a factor.

Oh, I'm sorry haz matt this is your post and I spent most of my time focusing on Only4u.
I hope i didn't offend ya man.
Bring that car to AIS 2 and I promise you I can get your carto dead hook!!!!

**WickEdSix9838** · 12-01-2002, 12:13 PM

did yall run on friday or saturday??? when i went a few weeks ago on friday night all i could run was a 2.29 60' and a 15.14, then on saturday the track was way better and i ran a 2.10 60' and a 14.86...go on a saturday if your gonna run at Temple, i think all those front wheel drive cars carry water to the line and make it crappy...

**Only4U** · 12-01-2002, 12:46 PM

it was saturday

**HAZ-Matt** · 12-01-2002, 12:53 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by 12secondv6:
Oh, I'm sorry haz matt this is your post and I spent most of my time focusing on Only4u.
I hope i didn't offend ya man.<hr></blockquote>

Doesn't bother me. This is the official trip to Temple thread, haha

It was Saturday. Seemed better than the last time I went there on a Friday night. More traction and less cars.

**Only4U** · 12-01-2002, 02:11 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by 12secondv6:
Congrats on low 15's!!!!

Hey only, it does take some practice.
I did not perfect it first time out.
I run nitto 245 50 16 drag radials.
My bird likes 20 psi in them.
I roll through the water box and just give a slight tap of the throttle.
Not too much which would cause water to spray up in the wheel wells though.
I roll out
Hit the line locks and start spinning the tires.
I completely ignore the flaggers guy who tells you when to go.
I spin, and spin and spin
I wait until I see smoke from both sides
Once I see this I usually count to about 8 seconds of white smoke
I then let off the line locks and floor it
The car spins until the tires just grab
Don't just let off, this is how parts break
I then stall up the converter to 2800-2900 rpm's and let her rip

When you stage make sure you are in the groove

For traction (and not best times) you could fill up the gas tank completely full and reduce according to traction.

What suspension set up do you have?
Track prep also plays a factor.

Oh, I'm sorry haz matt this is your post and I spent most of my time focusing on Only4u.
I hope i didn't offend ya man.
Bring that car to AIS 2 and I promise you I can get your carto dead hook!!!!<hr></blockquote>

that's how i launched. the tires were plenty sticky, believe me.

the psi was first at 23, then at 20, but i got the same results either way.

rear suspension: v8 springs, 70k shocks. front suspension is all stock. don't tell me my springs are too harsh cause i saw no difference in between the soft stockers and the v8 springs i have on there now.

the nittos just don't hook. you can tell me all you want that i'm doing something wrong or that they will hook for me, but i guarantee you there is nothing i'm doing wrong.

my torque converter is just too ruthless for my tires.

if you think you can do better, i will let you drive my car and try. come meet me at temple some saturday night and we'll do it. but you don't have long, i've found a buyer for the nittos and they are about to go.

and no, i'm not going to hrp; that would piss me off to drive all the way to hrp and do the exact same routine i do at every other track.

i don't know if i lose interest because every time i go, it seems like my car is more powerful, yet uncapable of what it's got; or, if it's just that i'm losing interest cause i just don't care anymore. regardless, such a waste, cause i know i could pull mid 14s with traction, i honestly know i can.

when the converter wasn't broken in much (even though i'm not a firm believer of a converter being "broken in," i realize that the first trip to the track spin was minimal; ever since then there has not been even the slightest bit of hope for the nitto's, they don't even act like they want to stick AND it seems to only grow worse every time i take it to the track) and a head wind, i managed to pull a sub 2 sec 60ft. and a 15.07 quarter mile. i could hit the 14.6-14.7 range easily, the power is there, the traction is not.

[ December 01, 2002: Message edited by: Only4U ]

**12secondv6** · 12-05-2002, 12:30 AM

Well, first step take out the v8 springs and put the v6 springs back in.
This costs nothing, just time.
Then fill up the gas tank completely.
Run 19 or 20 psi.
Also go to another track.
Or call the track and find out when the big guys are running (7-9 second cars) because they will be running slicks. Just follow one of them and line up in there tire tracks
Do you roll throur the water box?
Snap or spin the tires?
I've sprayed a 120 dry shot on nitto's and hooked off the line with a 1.731 60 foot.
I've pulled 1.922 60 foots with my nitto's n/a and only 323's

**NBMA4V6** · 12-05-2002, 03:05 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Only4U:

that's how i launched. the tires were plenty sticky, believe me.

my torque converter is just too ruthless for my tires.

<hr></blockquote>

omg man never say that again..i will die from the laughter
Converter being to to ruthless. you have 100 rpms more stall than me, yet i can hook a launch. and ls1's can hoook on them with converters? kris and james as well as keith hook on them with nitrous..

but you cant, dont blame the tires, blame yourself

**12secondv6** · 12-05-2002, 03:07 AM

It took me many trips to the track and various burn outs, staging, tire psi, and stall technique to figure mine out.
It takes time, maybe he is not giving it enough practice

**Only4U** · 12-05-2002, 11:00 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by NBMA4V6:

omg man never say that again..i will die from the laughter
Converter being to to ruthless. you have 100 rpms more stall than me, yet i can hook a launch. and ls1's can hoook on them with converters? kris and james as well as keith hook on them with nitrous..

but you cant, dont blame the tires, blame yourself<hr></blockquote>

.1 higher str, 100 higher stall. i can't say how much more powerful mine is than yours, if any. and for all we know, one brand may be a better converter than the other, so unless you have my verter to test on your tires or unless i have your verter to test on my tires, then we can never know if that .1 higher str and that 100 higher stall makes any difference whatsoever. in the meantime, as much as i spin off the line, i think i will stick with the ruthless comment.

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