14.665 @ 92.14

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr> Maybe we should just all admit you are the God of V6 fbodies and we should never dare compare ourselves with your torque monster, ruthless convertered miracle machine.<hr></blockquote>

that is a good idea, after all, maybe ya'll would shut up and quit acting like 2 year olds always trying to put me down. what's funny is...i don't ever recalling saying i was better than any of you, only...i do recall putting up an argument every time ya'll raise a stupid point, and then while it's me getting defensive, it's actually you guys that get pissed and try to solve your problems by making fun of me. :rolleyes: real mature [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] what's great about this is, even though you think you guys are pissing me off, you are actually just making yourselves look like pure and total dumbasses to the rest of camarov6.com but hey, whatever works, right? i mean, as long as you guys get to put down evan and edge at the same time, ya'll are happy, right? :rolleyes:

oh and btw tiago, i'd be more than happy to race jeff. but, i won't feel stupid at all when and if he beats me, because i don't ever recall saying i was faster than he was. actually, i don't mind racing any of those guys in houston, cause i don't ever recall saying any of them were slower than me. but i'm sure you guys will get another "make fun of evan/edge" kick when jeff does win, so great! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

[ December 11, 2002: Message edited by: Only4U ]</p>

[ravenp]

One of you needs to step away from this one. Why so touchy? There were some great times run that day that bring respect to this whole comminity but still we fight amongst each other? [img]graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

Timeslips are the ultimate measure. Environmental factors come into play but in the end, the slip is all you have.

I think it's obvious that a slip is representative of one day in time as temp/hum etc seriously affect our car's performance, but they can't be used as a crutch either.

If you run and don't get the times you want and then ***** about conditions/altitude etc...that's not cool.

Keep that sh*t to yourself and get your a$$ to a track that you feel your car will run best at.

My opinion.

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slacker69:
If u are complaining about traction and knock well get this i had anywhere from 3-7 degrees of knock and i was spinning when i ran my 14.34 with a 1.866 60 foot so there there are no excuses in racing just better drivers.<hr></blockquote>

i just found out i had the knock the other day.
the tires didn't spin whatsoever on the 14.98 run.
neither are excuses, they are "suggestions" for why my time was not as good as expected. since when is it intellectual to see a post on the board where someone says "i have 10 degrees of knock" and then someone replies saying "10 degrees is a lot of knock, your times would most definetely be better with that knock reduced" and use it against him? that's just plain stupid. but whatever man, if you wish to make fun of me because of my "suggestions" and calling them "excuses" then that's fine.

also, when i ran the 14.98, there was an 01 camaro with intake/catback running a 15.4. hrmm..

and then two weeks ago, at temple, matt was having NO traction problems and running consistent 15.2s, i was having major problems (but wait, that's no excuse, sorry, i guess my car is slow then for running this) and i was running the same times.

so, my conclusion is, everyone with a v6 fbody that lives in houston has a blessed car and

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by hawgs:
his car is a freak... thats all. <hr></blockquote>

however, everyone west of houston, with a v6 fbody, has a slow POS because NONE of them can break into the 14s without a converter, and with only basic mods. odd. :rolleyes:

and btw, there is not much skill in driving a stock converter car IMO after you've done it a couple of times.

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ravenp:
Timeslips are the ultimate measure. Environmental factors come into play but in the end, the slip is all you have.

I think it's obvious that a slip is representative of one day in time as temp/hum etc seriously affect our car's performance, but they can't be used as a crutch either.
<hr></blockquote>

so...in order to find out which of two cars is faster, comparing the slip would be inadequate? they would have to line up together at the same track with same conditions at the same time to really find out which is quicker?

[Magnus]

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS KIND OF DEBATE as long as you guys keep it civil. [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm all for allowing posts to continue so members can get their say in on certain topics.. just keep it civil and clean is all I ask.

Thanks.

[ravenp]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Only4U:


so...in order to find out which of two cars is faster, comparing the slip would be inadequate? they would have to line up together at the same track with same conditions at the same time to really find out which is quicker?<hr></blockquote>

That would certainly be the best way. Same track, 10 runs in each lane, something like that. Depends on how hung up you are on proving which car is faster [img]smile.gif[/img]

[jmorgan]

hrmmmmmmmmmmmm does magnus,12sec or anyone with half a brain race when its 100 degs out side

no

why

because conditions suck balls and you are gonna run slower. ask magnus when he ran 14.00 were conditions good. I know they were probly low 40's with low humidity. so your saying his car isnt fast because he dosnt race same conditions as you.

how do you tell if a car is faster if a timeslip dosnt matter.


why dont you stop your *****ing and bring it to hrp


i ran the times i ran

the weather was good yes but why dont you run when the weatheris good to get your best time no you gotta ***** that the only reason i got the time i did was because where and when i raced. it doesnt matter where you race or what the conditions are its how fast you can get to the end of the 1/4 mile.


honestly excusses are for ricers and you sure have a hell of a lot of excusses.

ill admit jeffs car is faster then mine why, not cause he has more **** but because his car is faster dosnt matter that hes got a convereter and i dont his car is faster why probly because of the converter but thats no excuss i have the same oprotunity to go get a converter as does anyone else but i dont so i cant *****. he ran a better time cause his car is faster

why is it you always ***** you cant run a time?
why is it you cant run a time?
why is it your acting like a girl and whinning that your car is slow because of the track?
why dont you get off your lazy *** and come down here run some numbers so you cant ***** when i still beat your *** in my stock converted car.


ohh yea and my slowest time of the night was still faster then your fastest time ever by over .1 and that was when there was a **** load of humidity yet i still ran faster

[ December 11, 2002: Message edited by: Jason Morgan ]</p>

[THUPERMAN]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Only4U:


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

he just admitted exactly what i was trying to prove!!! but ross said that a faster time means a faster car, yet scott says a faster time means squat when comparing a time at hrp and a time at temple? hmm, didn't i say something about conditions being a huge factor? but OH NOOOO, i think it was stated something like:

<hr></blockquote>

You are more of a tard than I thought. OBVIOUSLY there is a HUGE amount of sarcasm. I don't see WHY people even waste their time out at Temple, it is a HORRIBLE track. Jesus Mary and Joseph I wish you would grow a brain and see that I was being sarcastic. Now I'll just wait for you to pick apart this post like you think you do so well. :rolleyes:

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Only4U:
however, everyone west of houston, with a v6 fbody, has a slow POS because NONE of them can break into the 14s without a converter, and with only basic mods. odd. <hr></blockquote>

I don't see anyone who said that. Again you go filling people's mouths with words they don't say.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Only4U:
and btw, there is not much skill in driving a stock converter car IMO after you've done it a couple of times. <hr></blockquote>

A decent point, but everyone's car is different on any given night due to changes in condtitions, so every driver has to adapt. But again I'm sure I am wrong, what do I know.

I can't think of anything else to say. PLEASE learn to recognize the OBVIOUS sarcasm when it is there. (ie everyone running at Temple, the WORST track in Texas)

I'll be back in a few, shower time. What is this, IM conversations now???

T

[ December 11, 2002: Message edited by: THUPERMAN ]</p>

[WickEdSix9838]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr> I think from now on everyone should be required to run at Temple so we can all have the worst timeslips and then duke it out from there. <hr></blockquote>
thats where my quickest time is... :D

[Only4U]

jason, you need to chill.

firstly, you quit being a baybe and treat this debate like a car owner, not like a testosterone craved car antic who can't get his panties out of a wad. i never dissed your times, i never said my car was faster, as a matter of a fact, i said congrats to you for running such a good time. now, in my post about running a 14 did you congratulate me? no, regardless of your reasons, you didn't treat me with any respect at all, you just come on here and start talking **** because i am arguing with some of your friends. therefore, shut the **** up, i don't want to hear YOUR *****ing.


<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by THUPERMAN:
(ie everyone running at Temple, the WORST track in Texas)<hr></blockquote>

but see scott, regardless of the sarcasm, THAT IS MY FREAKING POINT!!! i agree with you completely about temple, and yet, even though the track is a gay track and no one should run there, it still proves my point that a slip can't prove everything. ross said that a slip proves everything, you said temple is a terrible track. however, ross was implying that conditions don't matter. now ross, you can say all day that you didn't say those exact words, but you did not ever say that conditions were a factor, so therefore, you are, once again, very wrong.

i think this debate was going quite civil until jason had his pms trip on it [img]tongue.gif[/img] other than that, it is going well.

once again for all you guys who keep crying over there in houston, i'm going to try to make it down there on the 3rd so ya'll can finally shut the hell up about who's faster. if ya'll win, you will have your satisfaction, i will not care in the least, and i will still probably get my best time at hrp because most people tend to get really great times there (oh can't wait for touchy jason morgan to clear this one up). if i win, then i can't wait to hear ya'lls excuses...

[ December 11, 2002: Message edited by: Only4U ]</p>

[hawgs]

i am not reading anymore of this... its f*cking stupid. i give up. evan you know all, i know nothing. your car is just as fast at that 422 i saw at the track but his slip might be better due to better conditions. HRP is a fake track since they fix their times and no one should base thier car on that. evan you will f*cking argue with a god damn wall i swear. i am tired of this and will no longer post anything concerning you or going against you in any way, because i dont want to have this bullsh*t start again. you happy? you won. i give up. all of your points you try and make are complete and utter bullsh*t, they connect with nothing. i hope you do not have a carrer plan of going into law. i will never post against you and i will rarely post after you and i hope you will do the same to me.

[THUPERMAN]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by hawgs:
evan you know all, i know nothing.<hr></blockquote>

He is the new God among Kings.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by hawgs:
evan you will f*cking argue with a god damn wall i swear.<hr></blockquote>

getting stomach cramps laughing at this one....i'm out like a fat girl in a dodgeball game as well.

T

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by hawgs:
i am not reading anymore of this... its f*cking stupid. i give up. evan you know all, i know nothing. your car is just as fast at that 422 i saw at the track but his slip might be better due to better conditions. HRP is a fake track since they fix their times and no one should base thier car on that. evan you will f*cking argue with a god damn wall i swear. i am tired of this and will no longer post anything concerning you or going against you in any way, because i dont want to have this bullsh*t start again. you happy? you won. i give up. all of your points you try and make are complete and utter bullsh*t, they connect with nothing. i hope you do not have a carrer plan of going into law. i will never post against you and i will rarely post after you and i hope you will do the same to me.<hr></blockquote>

i have no points but one: timeslip is not the ultimate measure of speed or acceleration. it is quite simple, and quite true. maybe you think me reason is [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img] because you don't want to be wrong? or maybe you cannot comprehend it? jeez, it's very simple, ravenp agreed with me, is he just as full of [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img] as me?

good, don't post around me, cause every damn time you post something, you MUST insist on saying something negative... "you are wrong evan, malloy should be pissed at you and everyone else because you were sarcastic" hrmmm...scott was just sarcastic, why aren't you pissed at him? then you say "you are just jealous his stock converter car is quicker than your edge converter car" pleeeeease, don't put the blame on me, you are the one who started it. you need to grow up, i only analyze this stuff cause someone puts me in the position. law? a career? damn dude, i think i'd make a good lawyer considering how relevant my point is, and the fact that all 10 million of you against me in this thread can't accept that maybe i am right and instead, rag on my converter AND my car. i think i deserve a little respect here.

and jason...you want me to come to hrp, then why the hell don't you guys come to RCR? i'm serious, are ya'll too afraid of running 15s? cause ya'll seem to want me to come down there more than ya'll are open to coming down here. if you think your car is faster than mine, get your damn *** down here and prove it!! i'm not the one saying i'm faster, so i'm not coming to hrp. ya'll can just go on believing ya'lls cars are faster, since it's obviously so important to you.

[THUPERMAN]

RCR is a *hair* below HRP as far as conditions. You will MAYBE run .1 better at HRP, when RCR is prepped correctly. Don't even start that BS that RCR is a sh!tty track, because it is a damn good track. Blah blah blah blah blah

T

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by THUPERMAN:
RCR is a *hair* below HRP as far as conditions. You will MAYBE run .1 better at HRP, when RCR is prepped correctly. Don't even start that BS that RCR is a sh!tty track, because it is a damn good track. Blah blah blah blah blah

T<hr></blockquote>

[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] once again you proved my theory that some tracks are better than others.

oh ya, if you think RCR is just as good of a track, get your *** down here and race me. you can talk all you want, but you can't prove dick until you do it!