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    Well went back on the nitrous for 12's and.....

    I was denied but i still ran a new personal best here it is:
    13.24 @99.09 with a 1.65 60 foot
    I was rippin out of the hole but i was getting about 8-13 degrees of Knock retard from 4500-5900 rpms in every gear it was pissing me off. I was using a NX kit with the 52N 33F jets. Please help me discover what this KR is want 12's. And i have a feeling this is part of what is holding me back.

    [ January 18, 2003: Message edited by: slacker69 ]</p>
    <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers
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    jeez, i could imagine. that's some serious knock. o well, 13.24 is damn good either way.
    2000 NBM M6 Camaro Z28<br />323/335

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    • #3
      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slacker69:
      I still ran a new personal best here it is:
      13.24 @99.09 with a 1.65 60 foot
      I was rippin out of the hole but i was getting about 8-13 degrees of Knock retard from 4500-5900 rpms in every gear it was pissing me off. I was using a NX kit with the 52N 33F jets. Please help me discover what this KR is want 12's. And i have a feeling this is part of what is holding me back.      <hr></blockquote>

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      • #4
        Yeah really need help solving this KR problem it is really becoming a pain. I will post up my config file and autotap longs in a few. I just need to get them off my laptop.
        <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers

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        • #5
          Have you tried an octane booster yet?
          Keith - 99 'maro - White M5 - bumpstick and boltons - 13.65 @ 101 N/A
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          • #6
            From what i am told by the LS1 Nitrous guys and James(12secv6) do not use Octane booster it can clogg your soliniods. So i am looking into a fuel cell setup with a seperate fuel pump and regulator. Gonna run me about 300-400 bucks but i will need it once i go direct port.
            <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers

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            • #7
              Have you tried upping your fuel jet to a 35? You might be running lean on the top end.

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              • #8
                I have never heard of anyone putting in the #35 jet in for the 100 shot. I will try this after work and compare autotap logs. What should my O2's be around. Last night they were ranging depening on RPM from .880-.910 The closes to .880 they were the more KR whice makes me think i am running lean. I really dont want to get into doing the intank fuel pump would a inline fuel pump work cause those are less involved and the reason i am going with the fuel cell and stand alone fuel pump is for my future Direct Port setup where i will need such setup. Thanks for any help i get from yall. I will post my last nights Autotap runs and config and hopefully a autotap run with the #35 fuel jet. Thanks alot once again.
                <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers

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                • #9
                  hey man good run, try using the maft+ and retard your timing like 4degrees maybe that will help. alos where is your nozzle mounted,i think mine is too close to the maf and it's jacking me up..

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                  • #10
                    U can see pics of where my nozzle is mounted on my website. www.crappydayscamaro.cz28.com
                    <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers

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                    • #11
                      Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      That is an awesome 60 foot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      I pulled a 1.630 once!!!
                      I know how hard those are!!!!
                      Is this a 100 shot or less?
                      I got to a 13.05 on a 75
                      If it is a 100 shot then you have some fuel issues.
                      If it is a 100 shot then those mph's should be up around 104-106+
                      Damn, that launch must have made you stick in your seat huh?
                      I'm not the person to talk to with KR I know nothing about it.
                      As for octane boster, yes I have been told by TNT tech's that it makes the plunger in the solenoid swell and you can have a fuel or nitrous solenoid partially or fully stick
                      I would find a dyno and get that done with a wideband.
                      I learned a huge amount widebanding my car on the dyno.
                      We just added fuel jets until the car ran perfect on nitorus.

                      Congrats man!!!!
                      You are sooooo damn close to 12's
                      Maybe a couple of days before you hit the track next fill up on 100 octane? or 5 gallons?
                      Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                      nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
                      2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
                      2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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                      • #12
                        I believe i solved the KR problem i put in the 35 jet and i now see 0-0.5 degrees of KR now and my o2's arearound 930 at WOT so i think i solved it so hopefully i will bust open some 12's at SLP day @ Ennis. Yeah thos launches rock man. I got that 1.65 60 foot with my bottle psi @ 800
                        <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers

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                        • #13
                          Here is the full slip i just found it.

                          R/t .607
                          60' 1.65
                          330 5.24
                          1/8th 8.29
                          mph 79.00
                          1000 10.998
                          1/4 13.24
                          mph 99.09
                          <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers

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                          • #14
                            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slacker69:
                            Here is the full slip i just found it.

                            R/t .607
                            60' 1.65
                            330 5.24
                            1/8th 8.29
                            mph 79.00
                            1000 10.998
                            1/4 13.24
                            mph 99.09                            <hr></blockquote>
                            It's weird.
                            You pull wicked 60's and 330's but seem to die after that.
                            I spin/ partially hook to a 7.9 or 8.0 1/8 mile
                            And my mph is 105 - 107
                            I'm not bashing you I'm just trying to analuze your runs.
                            I wonder if you are running lean at higher rpm's or somewhere down the 1/4?
                            Or are you maintaining constant nitrous psi down the 1/4?
                            Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                            nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
                            2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
                            2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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                            • #15
                              me and slacker have been talking a i bet it his bottle psi. he's leaving the line at 800 psi. he should leave the line around 1050 and finish around 950'ish.
                              97 Camaro RS<p>Big stall converter, Big fuel pump, Big cam and alot of nitrous

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