WTF? Times hardly improved any over 3.08/open to 3.42/lsd

[MustangEater8251]

I didn't say it would help him I just said I tried it and didn't really see the worth of it, but hey maybe it works for others. Hence my advice of pop the endlinks off...

Its a free mod, I'll try every free mod before I go spend a couple hundred on springs for a better launch.


2.3 60" you need to cut that down...

I ran 2.0 60' pretty consistent last night with lsd, torque arm bushing, cracked torque arm, 21mm rear sway and balb Cooper cobras. I also have 3.42s.

Some people say every 1/10th in the 60' is about 2/10ths in the 1/4.

You hit a 2.0 flat like me might have been in the 14s. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Camarorulz]

I know you said you were disappointed with you '60, but what made it bad? Did you spin, did it bog down? What PSI were you running your tires at?

[xjarayax]

Man I don't think I was spinning much, maybe a little, no wheel hop or anything obvious like that. Maybe I was bogging, any ideas?
Car didn't feel good off the line as far as acceleration goes.
Sam

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by xjarayax:
Man I don't think I was spinning much, maybe a little, no wheel hop or anything obvious like that. <hr></blockquote>


spinning and not spinning is like night and day...huge difference. if you were spinning, you woulda known, that's all there is to it.

[67-03 RIP]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr> everyone assumes sam is having traction problems...he has yet to speak of these traction issues yet. therefore, it's retarted to tell him to take measures to cure traction problems when no traction problems exist! sam's times are obviously caused by something else...something we cannot diagnose obviously.
<hr></blockquote>

Nobody *** -umed anything. I was replying to Sam putting stiffer front springs on and that might have detrimental effect on times. The sway bar was just a suggestion - if every car ran exactly the same different things wouldn't work for different people. Don't know why you say it's retarded to suggest things. At the time of the post you didn't KNOW if he had traction issues or not - just because he didn't say doesn't mean it wasn't spinning.

Sorry Sam - Just trying to offer suggestions

Ron

[xjarayax]

NOO suggestions are good thats what I wanted to hear, I didn't want people to hijack my thread because they think they are speaking on my behalf

:rolleyes:

edit: I had the tire PSI at 27 in the rear and then up to as much as 30 but I heard you shouldn't lower the Kumhos too much because they have a soft sidewall and it doesn't really have much of an effect.

Sam

[ January 30, 2003: Message edited by: xjarayax ]</p>

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by xjarayax:
NOO suggestions are good thats what I wanted to hear, I didn't want people to hijack my thread because they think they are speaking on my behalf
<hr></blockquote>

lol, jesus sam, why even post then if you don't want people to try and clear things up for you? you told me you weren't spinning on IM, i shared it with the rest of the crowd.

my bad, i'll stay out of your threads from now on and won't hijack them :rolleyes:

[xjarayax]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Only4U:


lol, jesus sam, why even post then if you don't want people to try and clear things up for you? you told me you weren't spinning on IM, i shared it with the rest of the crowd.

my bad, i'll stay out of your threads from now on and won't hijack them :rolleyes: <hr></blockquote>

k fair enough

[12secondv6]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Only4U:


firstly, i do not advise taking the sway bar off at all. it is a complete waste of time if you aren't pulling sub 2 second 60fts with skinnies.

therefore, if you are going to take a sway bar off, only undo ONE endlink, not both of them, and then a. will be met. b is totally not worth it for the work involved.

[ January 30, 2003: Message edited by: Only4U ]<hr></blockquote>

Well, I would not say it is a waste of time. If you are trying to maximize every single potential of your car then yes the reduction of 12 pounds off the nose and the ability for more front end movement can be slightly benificial.

Undo one endlink? Personally I would think it would not be safe to drive like that. One side would have a lot more flex. If you started to slide the rear out and with one tight side and one lose side this could make the car become very difficult to control if you kept in it.
Either keep it on, remove endlinks, or ditch it completely. I'm not a fan of just dissconecting endlinks and leaving it still connected on the car because I've tried this and experienced it hitting parts of the suspension.

[67-03 RIP]

Sam -
Have you tried leaving any higher than 1500 RPM?
Also, do you have the incremental times/mph from your good run with the 3.08's or do they look the same as you posted for the new runs? Does your track give you 330Ft times?

Ron

[Only4U]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 12secondv6:


Well, I would not say it is a waste of time. If you are trying to maximize every single potential of your car then yes the reduction of 12 pounds off the nose and the ability for more front end movement can be slightly benificial.

Undo one endlink? Personally I would think it would not be safe to drive like that. One side would have a lot more flex. If you started to slide the rear out and with one tight side and one lose side this could make the car become very difficult to control if you kept in it.
Either keep it on, remove endlinks, or ditch it completely. I'm not a fan of just dissconecting endlinks and leaving it still connected on the car because I've tried this and experienced it hitting parts of the suspension.<hr></blockquote>

take one endlink off, run your car, put that endlink right back on at the end of the night, no driving on the highway involved.

i don't care, can take it off if you wish, but undo'ing one endlink is about the exact same.

[naptown]

Wow. I got a 15.6 my first time without any mods or weight reduction etc. I had two amps and a subwoofer spare tire and jack all that and a full tank of gas. I have the GU5 umm, well I was going to get 3.42's maybe not now.

[Oryan02]

Learn to drive.

[98GREENGLOW]

Ok you stated that your time was only slightly better than your best ever.Any night you improve no matter how small is a good night.when I first jumped from 3.08 to 3.42 my current best was 16.4with 3.08's.My first run with 3.42 was a 16.5 very dissapointing.By the end of the night I ran a low 16.3. I was like man this sucks!!! Only one, tenth improvment.But when I compared my average that night of 16.3 (I ran 4 of them and one 16.5) to my average with the 3.08's 16.6 I realized that I had improved about 3 tenths of a second. So dont compare to your best time when lightning struck and oceans parted,but to the times you could usualy acheive with the 3.08,s.also with practice I dropped my time to 15.9.The tracks about 8 miles from my house though...... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[HAZ-Matt]

Yes, for whatever reason the 60' is high. That's about what I pulled my first night out ever at RCR. That also happened to be a Wednesday. You get the 2.3 down to a 2.2 and you'll be 15.3-15.2 range. My best 60' at RCR is a 2.185, and that is with 30psi in the rear tires, although I haven't really jacked with the pressure. How much fuel did you have when you went? Maybe the gas wasn't all that great and you got some timing retard.. I think your mph might be a little low because I had a 15.65@87. I think the Firehawk springs all around might be the wrong spring setup for you. How do the spring rates compare to the V6 rates?