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    I had the HPP3 in for a few weeks.. i thought i felt a difference.. I ran 16.0 - 16.1 @ 83 mph all night with Power Tuning for 93 oct, 100% shift firmness, 195 cooling. Put it back to stock and ran a 15.9 @ 84 consistently. I figure that tuning would be good for a least one tenth..WTF? Anyone have track times before and after hpp3? thanks im really confused..
    2003 Fire Red Dakota R/T 5.9<p>V-Force Exhaust<br />Custom Cold Air Intake

  • #2
    That is odd.
    You might want to try some more track sessions.
    I am hoping you would see power gains and et reductions.
    Try some more times and keep us updated k?
    Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
    nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
    2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
    2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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    • #3
      If you can beg/borrow Autotap/OBD-2, etc, see what the KR is doing - maybe you're getting KR and losing timing or something like that.

      Ron
      I know - Camaro 67-02.. 2000 Camaro V6/A4 Black T-Tops<br />1969 Camaro 350/PG 12.69 @ 102.5 1966 Chevy II Wagon 283/PG Destined for NHRA stock eliminator.

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      • #4
        stupid question but you gotta start with the obvious. did you have 93 octane in the car when you were running the 93 setting? im assuming you did but im just wondering, cause if you didnt you would of gotten KR which would of slowed you down.

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        • #5
          Not a stupid question at all.
          Sometimes the obvious is overlooked because it is sooo obvious.
          Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
          nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
          2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
          2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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          • #6
            Maybe it was just not so good conditions or something. I knocked off .3 with my jetchip, and I'm sure the tuning is very similar with the HPP3.

            [ February 27, 2003: Message edited by: AMinor65 ]</p>
            <b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49

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            • #7
              I "gained" about 0.3 tenths in the 1/4 with HPP3, although no mph? I was using 87 octane tuning on a tank of 89.

              Could have been conditions. I think you should set the shift firmness back to stock, not because it is making you slower, but because it isn't making you fatser [img]smile.gif[/img] If i get to go to the track a lot in the future, I will play with HPP3 more, with maybe tuned, untuned back to back comparisons.
              Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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              • #8
                Funny, I was running 89mph @ 15.6 range (with a very poor launch) on 87 octane on 87 tuning through a stock exhaust system with mine... I didnt get around to trying the stock programming or not, but thats kinda weird sounding.
                2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
                Details: www.1lev6.com

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                • #9
                  I was running 91 (thats all you can get in CA) with Octane booster that supposedly boosts +7 octane i think. Also tried using the 87 Oct setting.. no difference. Not so much concerned bout the Hpp3.. more worried why my mph dropped from 85 to 84. Last year 15.8s @ 85 were relatively easy and trapping at 85 happened every time.. Now im lucky to get a 15.9 at 84. I have stock plugs and wires still with 30k on the motor.. would changing them help at all? thanks i appreciate the help guys.. its damn frustrating running 16s in a 3.8 with 3.42s =/
                  2003 Fire Red Dakota R/T 5.9<p>V-Force Exhaust<br />Custom Cold Air Intake

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                  • #10
                    I know what you mean about the times I was running the same times last year and had everything done down below but the headers and I was getting the same mph, I would try the plugs and wires and fuel filter, see if that does anything.
                    40th Ann GTp 4door

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                    • #11
                      I see on your site that you have an OPEN differential. Did you have trouble launching at all? What were your 60ft times? When I ran my car bone stock, my mph was 84 but my et was 16.8 (car wasn't broken in, and it was bone stock, its a lot stronger now.) That mph seems very low for a 16.0. 85 seems a little low for 15.8 as well. Does anyone disagree?
                      -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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                      • #12
                        track and weather conditions?????
                        and dont forget caca happens, could have been a bad night.
                        6s.......under the hood or under the belt, they just dont cut it.

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                        • #13
                          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by nino:
                          track and weather conditions?????
                          and dont forget caca happens, could have been a bad night.
                          <hr></blockquote>

                          It was about 35 degrees ... pretty windy. Also i pulled a 2.2 60'on the 15.9 run and the rest were 2.3-2.4. Its damn hard as hell to hook with these Kumhos. I highly doubt a POSI will take morethan a .1 off my time...
                          2003 Fire Red Dakota R/T 5.9<p>V-Force Exhaust<br />Custom Cold Air Intake

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