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  • #16
    Before I get flamed for saying that,

    I think it was the "SAM" (school of automotive mechanics) camaro that ran a 10.90 or maybe a little faster on a stock short block, which to me is stock internals.
    I have made a lot of money in my life, most of which I spent on cars and women.<p>The rest I have blown.

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    • #17
      That trap speed is definitely low 12 second potential. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
      <b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'

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      • #18
        Just wondering, does fastest "stock" LS1 have to mean that it wasn't swapped into a car that didn't come with that motor? How's it feel compared to the 6? Looks like you had more low end with the juiced 6 and the 8 has more up top cuz of the 112mph. Nice ET.
        2004 CE Corvette 10.86@132mph
        1996 Supercharged/Nitrous Camaro RS (For Sale)
        2011 Cadillac CTS-V
        2011 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT-P
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        • #19
          Stock internals in LS1 world means stock heads/cam.

          Shirl, I'm not sure if my 97 will count but it should damnit. I have a stock converter in the V8 and was still able to almost match my V6 convertered NA 60's... but on the juice the V6 was quicker for the 60'. When I put a converter in this car though I'm expecting low 1.5 60's. [img]smile.gif[/img]

          The LS1 feels SOOOO SOO SOO much better thant he V6. Sure, the 12.3 V6 pass is quicker than the current best in the LS1.. but the MPH really makes a difference in how it feels. I get this power ALL the time, I don't have to have a full bottle.. Plus there isn't that much abuse on the engine either. [img]smile.gif[/img]

          I highly recomend an LS1 swap for those of you who just need more RAW power and that deep V8 sound. Highway pulling/passing power is now unreal.

          With my big nittos on the street, first gear is USELESS.. I expect first and second to be useless with the new verter.

          Here is my ricer math for the 1.2 seconds.
          Pulley is worth a solid tenth.
          Intake/TB should be worth at LEAST a tenth.
          Converter/LT combo should be worth a full second.

          I can do it. [img]smile.gif[/img]
          Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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          • #20
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by navyblue2000:
            the fastest stock internal LS1 is only 11.3?<hr></blockquote>
            Damn, I thought that was good, but I guess not.
            <b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'

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            • #21
              if u still can't get it w/ that combo, look at new driveshaft, gears, ignition, programming, and mroe weight reduction. Ur saying traction will be a prob, do SFC's and torque arm.
              2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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              • #22
                honeslty thats fast and all but not all that fast considering the 4.10 gears


                TheBeast on here ran a 12.9 stock with no weight reduction at all on street tires and what i think he has 3.42's

                give him 4.10's tires and weight reduction and honestly thats not all that fast

                you know 4.10's and some tires are good for atleast .5 on a ls1

                nice time but its not that super low of a time

                also you gonna need a 12bolt at some point that 4400 stall and 4.10 on slicks arnt gonna last long on that 10 bolt



                im also sure you had either open headers or y pipe no?

                nice times though thats a nice mph

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                • #23
                  <blockquote>quote:</font><hr> Stock internals in LS1 world means stock heads/cam. <hr></blockquote>

                  More of that ricer math?

                  FYI---

                  NA bolt on LS1s’ are in the mid to low 11s, with 3.23s to 3.73s, weighing 32-3700 lbs.

                  Not to get into a pissing contest with you magnus, but stock internals has always been the short block. Specifically cam/bore/stroke.
                  I have made a lot of money in my life, most of which I spent on cars and women.<p>The rest I have blown.

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                  • #24
                    i was gunna say thats fast til i remembered he has 4.10s...

                    well, at least he can have that grumbly sound now...

                    me personally (dont know why) will go for a turbo instead... i just dont want to change my 6, even though i really want a 8

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                    • #25
                      Jason, the top dawg NA stock internal LS1's have around a 3200 race weight. V6 bird was running 3.23 gears as well in his stock 10 bolt.

                      I won't have the 4.10's in when I'm launching the 4400 on slicks although BradWS6, local club member here, has cut 1.5's on 4.10's in a 10 bolt many times if I recall correctly.

                      I'm not sure how much 4.10's were worth, Pro Stock John was saying they were actually worth about .2 and 2mph on a stock LS1.

                      I know its not a super low ET but I was definately pulling past many LS1's at the track. Most stock LS1's were running low 13's at about 107.. The weight reduction and gear is what makes my car so fast though, well that and the great flowing intake.

                      I was running open y-pipe. As soon as I get my QTP headers, I'll run an X pipe but not sure what mufflers to go with. I want the car to be SOME what quiet. It's hard to carry a conversation in the car now with no muffler and the gear whine.
                      Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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                      • #26
                        I hear spintech's are nice, or if ur worried about backpressure, just run a pair or 2 of resonators back. also, if the exhaust dumps out behind the car, it'll sound quieter, cuz the noise will be farther back, unlike open headers underneath ur seats.
                        2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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                        • #27
                          nice, but you gotta lot of work to do, not to mention the competition is a little larger now ;)

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                          • #28
                            Here's a good launch shot of the car.

                            Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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                            • #29
                              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Slow-N-ugly:
                              Before I get flamed for saying that,

                              I think it was the "SAM" (school of automotive mechanics) camaro that ran a 10.90 or maybe a little faster on a stock short block, which to me is stock internals.
                              <hr></blockquote>
                              Cartek has a 10.98 automatic with only a head and cam swap
                              2000 Firebird. Whisper Lid, True duals, TSP mail order tune, Built Tranny , TCI 2800 stall verter, B&M tranny cooler, Eaton LSD, 3.42 gears. Current best ET. 15.232 89.09 MPH 2.175 60ft on stock 3.42\'s and open diff.<a href=\"http://www.geocities.c

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                              • #30
                                WEAK [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] no wheels in the air = weak

                                :D

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