I want to run high 14's!

[HAZ-Matt]

Evan started to get weird knock in 3rd gear after he put his 3600 converter in.

I would agree that there are no factory freaks... but what about Jason Morgan's magical 14.4 run with intake and exhaust only?

I still claim that 14.9's aren't too hard. Track prep is almost everything. My best mph is at Temple, but with a 15.23... At San Antonio Raceway a few weeks later, I ran 14.9's all night with less mph.

[jamie]

jason morgan ran at HRP. and the BA wasn't probably astronomically low. great conditions..

[Camarorulz]

I've got a few more cards to play. I will be going to the track next Friday probably, and I'll keep all these suggestions in mind. I recharged my K&N a couple weeks ago and redid the intake to bypass the air silencer instead of just delete it, and I think the air flows better now (better quality ghetto air intake [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) I'm gonna let the car cool off at least an hour before it even touches the track. I don't have a manual fan switch or low-temp thermo, so that's my only option. Damn, I need new tires. :( Any more suggestions? Hopefully we'll see what it takes for a V6 fbody to hit 14s in hot July temps in Oklahoma. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ July 08, 2003: Message edited by: Camarorulz ]</p>

[Loochy88]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
they are platinum and burn colder than coppers.

the other 3 electrodes shroud the spark from the air/fuel mixture.<hr></blockquote>

poop.

those arent fun to put in and out. oh well, new plugs soon.

[KillerBeeCamaro]

Well, i guess im one of those guys yall get mad at, 14.90 - 15.1 bone stock, free mods.

[AMinor65]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Camarorulz:
AMinor, what was your '60 with that 14.7?...

[ July 08, 2003: Message edited by: Camarorulz ]<hr></blockquote>

Here's the info on that run. It was 81 degrees that day. Humidity not bad.
RT .6223
60 FT 2.1530
330 FT 6.922
1/8 9.4463
MPH 72.82
1/4 14.7463
MPH 93.49

KillerBeeCamaro, we're not mad at ya. I just think that conditions have to be da*n near perfect for any basically stock 3.8 to get into the 14s, period.

Oh, another thing about running 14s. If you don't do it consistently, then it was a fluke. I run 15s all day N/A, so that what I have, a 15 second car.

Gotta be careful when you read about the successful runs on this site. They're true, but they are not the norm. A nearly stock 3.8 f-body is a high-15, low-16 second car. Period.

[Camarorulz]

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Agreed. AMinor65, you must have tuning issues or something. Good luck with that.

[AMinor65]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Camarorulz:
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Agreed. AMinor65, you must have tuning issues or something. Good luck with that.<hr></blockquote>

Terrible driver! :D

[HAZ-Matt]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by jamie:
jason morgan ran at HRP. and the BA wasn't probably astronomically low. great conditions..<hr></blockquote>

The conditions were supposedly the best ever... but what you are implying is that any intake/exhaust car could have run 14.4 that day. I'm not sure that is true. I have run at HRP once. Granted the conditions were not the greatest... but it is not like it knocked .5 sec off my time.

[Camarorulz]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by AMinor65:
Terrible driver!

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I would be a terrible driver with a 100 shot too, lol. :D

[jamie]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by HAZ-Matt:


The conditions were supposedly the best ever... but what you are implying is that any intake/exhaust car could have run 14.4 that day. I'm not sure that is true. I have run at HRP once. Granted the conditions were not the greatest... but it is not like it knocked .5 sec off my time.<hr></blockquote>

i wouldn't say any car. his car has the 2285 stall converter. so that right there helps. i think thats the stall rating. his car would probably be a perfect example of what a late year camaro can do that.

[HAZ-Matt]

He was running the OEM converter at the track when he hit 14.4... I don't know what this means: "his car has the 2285 stall converter"

[jamie]

the newer firebirds/camaros, i think 00+ got that stall. when i was looking for a new converter for my car, my mechanic asked me if i had the 18xx or the 22xx. i guess the "looser" converter myth isn't one anymore.

[HAZ-Matt]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by jamie:
the newer firebirds/camaros, i think 00+ got that stall. when i was looking for a new converter for my car, my mechanic asked me if i had the 18xx or the 22xx. i guess the "looser" converter myth isn't one anymore.<hr></blockquote>

Ok I decided to look it up on GM Parts Direct just for fun...

Turns out there are two different part numbers for the V6 converter...

24213396 V6, 3.08-1 Gear Ratio, Exchange

24213395 V6, 3.42-1 Gear Ratio, Exchange

Interesting. Now which one is which?

EDIT: These were parts for a 2000 Firebird (like my car)

[ July 10, 2003: Message edited by: HAZ-Matt ]</p>

[Camarorulz]

My 2002 came with 3.08 gears stock and stalled at 1800, so the converter that came with the 3.42 gear ratio car is the looser one.