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  • #46
    Evan started to get weird knock in 3rd gear after he put his 3600 converter in.

    I would agree that there are no factory freaks... but what about Jason Morgan's magical 14.4 run with intake and exhaust only?

    I still claim that 14.9's aren't too hard. Track prep is almost everything. My best mph is at Temple, but with a 15.23... At San Antonio Raceway a few weeks later, I ran 14.9's all night with less mph.
    Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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    • #47
      jason morgan ran at HRP. and the BA wasn't probably astronomically low. great conditions..
      \'96 <b>Quasar Blue</b> Firebird A4<br /><a href=\"http://jamiethekiller@comcast.net\" target=\"_blank\"><i>jamiethekiller@comcast.net</i></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.woodlandrock.com\" target=\"_blank\">my band: woodland</a>

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      • #48
        I've got a few more cards to play. I will be going to the track next Friday probably, and I'll keep all these suggestions in mind. I recharged my K&N a couple weeks ago and redid the intake to bypass the air silencer instead of just delete it, and I think the air flows better now (better quality ghetto air intake [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) I'm gonna let the car cool off at least an hour before it even touches the track. I don't have a manual fan switch or low-temp thermo, so that's my only option. Damn, I need new tires. :( Any more suggestions? Hopefully we'll see what it takes for a V6 fbody to hit 14s in hot July temps in Oklahoma. [img]smile.gif[/img]

        [ July 08, 2003: Message edited by: Camarorulz ]</p>
        -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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        • #49
          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
          they are platinum and burn colder than coppers.

          the other 3 electrodes shroud the spark from the air/fuel mixture.
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          poop.

          those arent fun to put in and out. oh well, new plugs soon.

          96 V6 A4 Camaro and 99 Z28 A4 Camaro
          Visit My F-Body Page

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          • #50
            Well, i guess im one of those guys yall get mad at, 14.90 - 15.1 bone stock, free mods.
            1/4 14.1 @ 99<br />1/8 9.2 @ 77

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            • #51
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Camarorulz:
              AMinor, what was your '60 with that 14.7?...

              [ July 08, 2003: Message edited by: Camarorulz ]
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              Here's the info on that run. It was 81 degrees that day. Humidity not bad.
              RT .6223
              60 FT 2.1530
              330 FT 6.922
              1/8 9.4463
              MPH 72.82
              1/4 14.7463
              MPH 93.49

              KillerBeeCamaro, we're not mad at ya. I just think that conditions have to be da*n near perfect for any basically stock 3.8 to get into the 14s, period.

              Oh, another thing about running 14s. If you don't do it consistently, then it was a fluke. I run 15s all day N/A, so that what I have, a 15 second car.

              Gotta be careful when you read about the successful runs on this site. They're true, but they are not the norm. A nearly stock 3.8 f-body is a high-15, low-16 second car. Period.
              <b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49

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              • #52
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                Agreed. AMinor65, you must have tuning issues or something. Good luck with that.
                -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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                • #53
                  <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Camarorulz:
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                  Agreed. AMinor65, you must have tuning issues or something. Good luck with that.
                  <hr></blockquote>

                  Terrible driver! :D
                  <b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49

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                  • #54
                    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by jamie:
                    jason morgan ran at HRP. and the BA wasn't probably astronomically low. great conditions..<hr></blockquote>

                    The conditions were supposedly the best ever... but what you are implying is that any intake/exhaust car could have run 14.4 that day. I'm not sure that is true. I have run at HRP once. Granted the conditions were not the greatest... but it is not like it knocked .5 sec off my time.
                    Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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                    • #55
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by AMinor65:
                      Terrible driver!

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                      I would be a terrible driver with a 100 shot too, lol. :D
                      -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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                      • #56
                        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by HAZ-Matt:


                        The conditions were supposedly the best ever... but what you are implying is that any intake/exhaust car could have run 14.4 that day. I'm not sure that is true. I have run at HRP once. Granted the conditions were not the greatest... but it is not like it knocked .5 sec off my time.
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                        i wouldn't say any car. his car has the 2285 stall converter. so that right there helps. i think thats the stall rating. his car would probably be a perfect example of what a late year camaro can do that.
                        \'96 <b>Quasar Blue</b> Firebird A4<br /><a href=\"http://jamiethekiller@comcast.net\" target=\"_blank\"><i>jamiethekiller@comcast.net</i></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.woodlandrock.com\" target=\"_blank\">my band: woodland</a>

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                        • #57
                          He was running the OEM converter at the track when he hit 14.4... I don't know what this means: "his car has the 2285 stall converter"
                          Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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                          • #58
                            the newer firebirds/camaros, i think 00+ got that stall. when i was looking for a new converter for my car, my mechanic asked me if i had the 18xx or the 22xx. i guess the "looser" converter myth isn't one anymore.
                            \'96 <b>Quasar Blue</b> Firebird A4<br /><a href=\"http://jamiethekiller@comcast.net\" target=\"_blank\"><i>jamiethekiller@comcast.net</i></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.woodlandrock.com\" target=\"_blank\">my band: woodland</a>

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                            • #59
                              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by jamie:
                              the newer firebirds/camaros, i think 00+ got that stall. when i was looking for a new converter for my car, my mechanic asked me if i had the 18xx or the 22xx. i guess the "looser" converter myth isn't one anymore.<hr></blockquote>

                              Ok I decided to look it up on GM Parts Direct just for fun...

                              Turns out there are two different part numbers for the V6 converter...

                              24213396 V6, 3.08-1 Gear Ratio, Exchange

                              24213395 V6, 3.42-1 Gear Ratio, Exchange

                              Interesting. Now which one is which?

                              EDIT: These were parts for a 2000 Firebird (like my car)

                              [ July 10, 2003: Message edited by: HAZ-Matt ]</p>
                              Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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                              • #60
                                My 2002 came with 3.08 gears stock and stalled at 1800, so the converter that came with the 3.42 gear ratio car is the looser one.
                                -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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