Finally took the V6 to the track *initial first run results*

[Bliggida]

Welp, the Camaro has been running great for the past couple weeks. I decided it was time to test it out, since it was now MY car (bought it after repairs).


So, anyway here in Say-town the drap strip sits at about 700 feet above sea level (went to Alamo) Track was pretty cool in temperature. Hit a small cold front and air temperature was around 68 or so. Humidity was relatively down too. Conditions were good as far as I was concerned.

I had the car empty except for my CD's and other misc. small stuff. kept the spare in, and ran with a full tank of gas. Was unable to get a race weight.

First run (only was able to make two) was at 35 PSI rear/40+ front. Launched at 2,500 and dumped it. I don't think my burnout was effective (or would be with these tires anyway - stock)

That resulted in a:
2.224 60-foot
15.452 1/4 ET
@ 91.64 MPH
never leaving third gear through the traps (T-5)

The second run wasn't any better. I lowered the rear pressure to 22 PSI, and launched at about the same RPM. The car left the line sideways and resulted in
2.365 60-foot
10.125 1/8 ET
73.50 1/8 MPH
15.643 1/4 ET
@ 91.44 MPH

Both of my reaction times are not worth mentioning, I was asleep on the line posting 1+ R/T's.

That was my first time taking this particular Camaro to the track. Not sure whether to be pleased or dissapointed. I expected stock to be a little faster. But there are several things I as the driver need to work on as far as learning how this car likes to run the track. With only two runs made, I plan on going back this wednesday for a test-&-tune session to get more runs in.

I am hoping to break 15.3's before I do any noteable work to the car. We'll see.

[02PewterBird]

I looked at your Cardomain site and noticed this.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>So with that, I go back to the V6 Camaro. Right now, it's still pretty much stock. I've done some work to it but there are no aftermarket products on the car, other than the muffler (No cat-back) When it comes to building cars I am both very intelligent and very sneaky. My car can be considered "stock", but you won't get another stock V6 F-body to run with it. The stock clutch is starting to go out, so that will be one of the aftermarket products to be installed. Specifically a Spec stage III clutch. Have not decided on Kevlar or Ceramic yet, but that clutch is rated for holding 600 horsepower - oughta be fine behind the V6? After that is taken care of, I will take the car to the track and prove it too is a 14 second car. Not bad for something that gets over 30 MPG on the highway, and 25 MPG in the city.<hr></blockquote>

And this in your guestbook:

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>posted by bliggida 8/3/03, 1:17 pm

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You're a bad driver. 15.30's should have been your goal stock. 15.5 at worst. I have taken 100's of cars to the track over the years, I don't need timeslips to know how fast a car is. But regardless what you call 'stock' and what I am quoting as 'stock' are two different things. This car runs 14's.<hr></blockquote>

Your car isn't stock and you're running what you said that guy should be running stock.

[WickEdSix9838]

are you talking about Alamo dragstrip in San Antonio? i havent ever been there but my dad said even back in the 80's it was a REALLY REALLY bad track, he said the shutdown area and pits were full of pot holes, i dont know if thats still the case but it would be worth the trip to Seguin...

[Bliggida]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 02PewterBird:
I looked at your Cardomain site and noticed this.

Your car isn't stock and you're running what you said that guy should be running stock. <hr></blockquote>

I am fully aware of my previous statements and nothing has changed. If you think a muffler (NO CAT BACK) will give you any more horsepower over stock, you need to spend more time at a chassis dyno. All it does is sound louder.

This car is capable of 14.99 I fully intend on demonstrating that capability once I have learned this particular cars' technique.

Just because I am a good driver, doesn't mean that my VERY FIRST trip to the track is going to reveal a record breaking ET.

I need time to play with the car. And it's stock, its got no more than an RS or Y87.

Alamo dragway has seen better days. Compared to San Antonio Raceway its simply put to shame. But I am not going to make excuses as to why I didn't make my ET goal, and say that its because Alamo Dragway has a bad track.

I'm just posting what my initial two runs ever made on this car reflected as of 10/17/03. Better ET's will come as I have the opportunity to get more seat time and learn its specifics.

[redbird00]

i'd say those runs weren't to bad, just work on the launch and it'll bring that time down... i wanna head out there pretty soon, just need to get a few things fixed, and with some good weather and traction hopin for mid 14's, and i'd say that the ftra i got sittin here for ya will help out a lot, good job blig...

merlin

[awesomeame]

hey, i'm at your same elevation, (approx 700ft) and my best on my completely stock m5, 3.23 was 15.402 @ 88.88. i always run mid 15's, so imho your car is where it should be. this might have something to do with the driver too :D

--matt

[Chuck Wilson]

Bliggida, will you be adding any mods to your car?

[02PewterBird]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:
I am fully aware of my previous statements and nothing has changed. If you think a muffler (NO CAT BACK) will give you any more horsepower over stock, you need to spend more time at a chassis dyno. All it does is sound louder.<hr></blockquote>

I know a muffler won't give you any power. I'm talking about this.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>My car can be considered "stock", but you won't get another stock V6 F-body to run with it.<hr></blockquote>

[Bliggida]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 02PewterBird:
[QB][/QB]<hr></blockquote>
sneaky sneaky. Hehe,

Put it this way... There is nothing on that car you can't get as an option from GM for a '98 V6 Camaro.

I have driven this car for a couple years, but prior to just recently, out of respect I haven't dogged the car as if I owned it. Now that I own it, I am stretching the legs a little bit. Those timeslips I posted are the first two ever made in this Camaro.

I have been down the drag strip in many a car, I would consider myself of low-to-mid knowledge when it comes to the racetrack. But that depends on who I am around. Around John Force I'm nuthin', Joe Schmoe weekend racer I might be a drag king.

Regardless, the last couple years I have been at the tracks as an observer or tuner usually. Not a driver. Now that I have a car I can run, I plan on picking up where I left off.

Give me a couple more weeks, as this car has an awful lot more potential!!! The results posted are reflecting my coming out of retirement.

Lil' rusty.

Thanks for the support though, and I'll keep you updated as I progress.

And YES, I plan to start work on the car, with modifications, immediately after I go below a 15.2-15.3 ET.

-First up are going to subframe connectors and lower control arms.
-Then it will be a toss up between some decent tires for the rear.
Or a combo package of Front & rear sway bars, Strut Tower Brace, and Padhard Rod.
-Third is a torque arm.
-And lastly a shifter.

Once I've gone the fastest I can go with the motor & tranny being completely stock. I'll start doing some intake and exhaust modifications, along with some better gearing.

My goals are not to progress until peak performance has been established at:
-completely stock
-traction enhanced/stock powertrain
-traction enhanced/modified powertrain.

[ October 19, 2003: Message edited by: Bliggida ]</p>

[SilverTAWS6]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:

sneaky sneaky. Hehe,

Put it this way... There is nothing on that car you can't get as an option from GM for a '98 V6 Camaro.
<hr></blockquote>

What mods do you have on it that didn't come on YOUR car from the factory?

Chris

[Clark Griswold]

Bliggida... its a stock 98 V6 camaro with a ton of miles on it, do not over analyze it or its potential.

[Ender2664]

I dont mean to be a dick, but your problem is real simple, lauch. You need to cut down those 60fts. If you are messing with tire pressure and stuff you should have a easy time feather 3,500 rpms out of the hole. I took my bone stock car with nothing tinkered with, the way i dive it to school and i feathered out for 3,000 with no wheelspin and no burn out, and it was my first time at the track. Put it up to 3,500 and feather it out, no wheelspin out the hole just pure power hiting the ground.

[ReodDai]

Btw muffler does make a difference.. muffler , lid and filter and I made an extra 21rwhp.

[camaro_speedemon]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Clark:
Bliggida... its a stock 98 V6 camaro with a ton of miles on it, do not over analyze it or its potential.<hr></blockquote>

I don't know how many miles he has on it, but from what I gather through my experience, and from other posts on this board, the 3800 series II is fairly bulletproof, and will last forever. I clocked a best of 15.2 with just a muffler and air filter with 100k something miles on it.

Last time I was at the track, my car had about 116k miles, it was damn near 100% humidity, about 90* and was at Orlando Speedworld, which was my first time at that track. For those who don't know OSW sucks, and to make matters worse, the track was actually wet because it rained ealier. I couldn't get traction for ****, and pulled a best 15.6 at something like 89-90, I don't remember off the top of my head.

It's starting to get cool here again, so after I fix a few things on my car, I'll be heading back to the track. I'm hoping for a 15.0 sometime this winter.

[SilverTAWS6]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:

-First up are going to subframe connectors and lower control arms.
-Then it will be a toss up between some decent tires for the rear.
Or a combo package of Front & rear sway bars, Strut Tower Brace, and Padhard Rod.
-Third is a torque arm.
-And lastly a shifter.
<hr></blockquote>

Are you looking to do this stuff for better overall handling or grip at the dragstrip?

Still wondering what GM "factory option" mods are on your car.

Chris