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    Well, I went out to SAR, wednesday night with Nino and Merlin. Got there early so I decided to start making runs since I was waiting on the rest of the crew to show.

    1st run, I was asleep at the line, but the car felt strong. I was able to get some decent heat built up into the tires. And I ran them at 28 PSI. 3,440 race weight with myself, 1/4 tank of gas.

    RT - 1.21
    60'- 2.21 (stock suspension and tires)
    330' - 6.38
    1/8 ET - 9.89
    1/8 MPH - 70.15
    1/4 ET - 15.41
    1/4 MPH - 89.80

    Car ran about the same as when I was at Alamo - where I was happy with the run but I could feel a lot more potential left in the motor.
    My MPH was down a little bit.

    2nd run, I got to the line, and starting hearing valve tick (or what sounded like). Thinking maybe my engine was cold I checked the gauge and I was near 210 (no fan switch yet). I was about to shut down, but went and made the run. I knew that my previous problem wasn't fixed and this may have been the underlying cause. Anyway I spun the bearings on the bottom end. That ET resulted in a 16.72 @ 84.54 MPH - I knew something was way off.

    I parked it, heard the bearings squealing and called up a tow truck. Bottom end is toast. I knew sooner or later it would catch up with me. And even if I hadn't raced, the engine may only have lasted a few months anyway. 133,xxx miles so I can't complain too much.

    Set on an LS1 swap, but I may have to park the Camaro for a while to save up for it.

    Anyone know where I can get a good deal on a V6 shortblock? I may swap my accessories and top end over to a good short block to get me on the road again (as far as driving the Camaro)

    Otherwise, my other options are:
    - replacing the tranny in my Olds' 98.
    - Re-ring the 307 in my Delta 88 and start its safety overhaul.
    - Slap an exhaust & primer on my '79 Z28 and drive that bad boy.

    So, set my best ET and blew the motor same day! I would have thought I'd be a lot more upset over the whole matter than I seem to be. Unless I am suffering from PTSD???

    Thanks for all the support though, and I'll let you guys know when I get a short block or if I will park it to save for an LS1 swap.

    [ November 21, 2003: Message edited by: Bliggida ]</p>
    <b>15.41</b> @ 89.80 & 15.45 @ <b>91.64</b>, 2.21 60ft, 3,440 raceweight, using <b>OEM</b> Equipment. <br />\'98 L67/M49 w/ 134,000 miles before spun bearing. \"<i>It\'s all stock, Baby</i>!\"

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    Ouch :eek: Sorry to hear :(
    2004 CE Corvette 10.86@132mph
    1996 Supercharged/Nitrous Camaro RS (For Sale)
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    • #3
      how low where you on oil. how old was your oil. what oil where you using? what was your normal oil PSI.

      Not normal for a 3800 even with high mileage to spin a bearing.
      Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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      • #4
        good point Magnus.

        I checked after I raced. Oil quality and quantity were both exceptional. I had about 3000 miles on this oil change. Clear, clean, not burnt at all.
        <b>15.41</b> @ 89.80 & 15.45 @ <b>91.64</b>, 2.21 60ft, 3,440 raceweight, using <b>OEM</b> Equipment. <br />\'98 L67/M49 w/ 134,000 miles before spun bearing. \"<i>It\'s all stock, Baby</i>!\"

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        • #5
          type of oil and normal Oil PSI at idle and 2K rpm?
          Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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          • #6
            i was there, it sukt... had another v-6 f-bod break a radiator hose and need to be towed too that night...

            merlin
            2002 Firebird<br />2003 Yamaha YZF 600R

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            • #7
              didn't you just get finished rebuilding that motor?

              that is teh suck


              srry...pull out the 79 yo ! [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
              1998 Chevrolet Camaro L36 M5<br />1982 Toyota Celica Supra 7MGTE project car - FOR SALE<br /><br />\"I find the most sensual part of the woman is the boobies.\" - Zap Brannigan

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              • #8
                Well, I didn't do a rebuild because no parts were replaced. I pulled the motor down to the block to have the heads and valve train inspected and put new gaskets in. That was it. But yeah I just got finished doing that about a month ago.

                During my first run and up to my second run, oil pressure was fine across the RPM range. After the second run, my pressure dropped to a dangerous level and that is when I shut the motor down.

                I usually use Quaker State or other name brand quality oil. 10W-30 fill.

                There was a lot of work to pull that motor apart in the car and I will not be doing that again. This motor (and tranny) will be lifted out, put on a stand and fixed that way. If I get another V6 short block I do not plan on having the car sit for months like I did before. I really do not want to spend more than a week swapping over accessories, and stabbing a new motor w/ tranny.

                Anyone got a good deal on a shortblock? Or Longblock?
                <b>15.41</b> @ 89.80 & 15.45 @ <b>91.64</b>, 2.21 60ft, 3,440 raceweight, using <b>OEM</b> Equipment. <br />\'98 L67/M49 w/ 134,000 miles before spun bearing. \"<i>It\'s all stock, Baby</i>!\"

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