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  • #16
    Blah blah blah... I've seen a lot of interesting arguments here, but you guys all forget that you have certain classes that cars break down into. Just because it's head's up does not mean there are no classes.

    Why would a modified V6 go up against 8 second dragsters? A smart lineup would be a modified V6 against non-power-adder LT1's and LS1's. That would be fun. [img]graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

    And no, I stand by my statement, bracket racing an automatic does not take skill. Light turns green, hit gas. Where's the skill in that? If you think that's difficult you SERIOUSLY need to drive ONE LAP on a road course--a true race track. ;) :D

    At least with a manual you have to work the clutch to get the launch just right, and it's up to you to shift like Mario Andretti.

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    • #17
      posted by Stefan:
      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr> And no, I stand by my statement, bracket racing an automatic does not take skill. Light <hr></blockquote>

      Racing an automatic while spooling the blower, grabbing traction, hitting the juice and trying to maintain control of the car while not going sideways or hitting the wall all while you have only one hand on the steering wheel while watching your fuel pressure and air/fuel ratio gauges the whole way down the track making sure nothing goes wrong, does take skill...oh yeah, and then there's the "consistency thing" of doing it right every TIME. [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
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      • #18
        Stefan, is your car a 5 speed?

        [ January 08, 2004: Message edited by: Shirl ]</p>
        2004 CE Corvette 10.86@132mph
        1996 Supercharged/Nitrous Camaro RS (For Sale)
        2011 Cadillac CTS-V
        2011 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT-P
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        • #19
          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shirl:
          Stefan, is your car a 5 speed?<hr></blockquote>

          Of course! If you're not shifting, you're not driving!

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          • #20
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shirl:
            while spooling the blower<hr></blockquote>

            "Spooling" the blower? That happens automatically. All you do is press the gas pedal. Duh. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img]

            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shirl:
            grabbing traction<hr></blockquote>

            All you do is press the gas pedal. Sure, you have to learn how hard to press it, but it's still just a few muscles in your foot.

            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shirl:
            hitting the juice<hr></blockquote>

            With a WOT switch? Just press the button.

            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shirl:
            trying to maintain control of the car<hr></blockquote>

            You're driving in a straight line. Just keep the wheel straight... that's not rocket science. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shirl:
            all while you have only one hand on the steering wheel while watching your fuel pressure and air/fuel ratio gauges the whole way down the track making sure nothing goes wrong<hr></blockquote>

            If your car is properly tuned you don't have to worry about that.

            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shirl:
            then there's the "consistency thing" of doing it right every TIME.<hr></blockquote>

            If your car is properly tuned this should result naturally.

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            • #21
              Wow, sounds like someone needs to learn how to race. Doesn't seem to matter what kind of racing it is, their is ALWAYS skill involved and if you leave the track at the end of the day mad, I would would just suggest that you get better.

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              • #22
                For a moderator you say some stupid things. its ok for you to undermine navyblue and make a post that will start a bunch of bs. Actually if you knew anything about bracket racing in autos or had any experience with autos you would know there is skill, you have to dial in so its not just the light, you have to run as close to your dial in as possible sometimes, now with a stall converter, and many other mods, the more you have usually the harder it is to run consistent. You contradict yourself many times, you bit** at magnus and others for saying " buy a v8 to go fast" but yet you say the same words. just face reality, yes you can make a v6 fast but you can do more to a v8 than a v6 so in the end the v8 will always be faster. like shirl said, the best way to win heads up is a full blown drag car. most people with a brain realize racing with a v6 can be fun and challenging but in reality its far less impractical to race heads up with a 3.8 fbody. Im sure most people realize their v6 isnt a real drag car, thats ridiculous, but some people have made theirs fast, for a v6. some people like relaxing when they take a drive, not shifting all the damn time, some peoples opionons are they just dont like manuals, i work to pay for my car, dont wanna come home and work to drive the thing. say what you want, anyone who actually bracket races knows its fun, you say in one post people come here to feel good about having a v6, well some people feel good about bracket racing, having a fair chance to beat v8s that would tear you a knew a-hole in heads up. stop being a hypocrit. I think you have penis envy towards owning a standard, and are obviously biased [img]graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img]
                around here even if you race heads up with your v6, a v8 will always beat you, there just too much you can do to a v8 and they already have the advantage, you dont see john force and those guys racing an alcoholed v6 vs v8, their basically the same ci motors. if you raced heads up with v8s, yeah you might beat a few but 99% would kick your *** , and then you would still whine!
                [ January 08, 2004: Message edited by: cammed3800 ]

                [ January 08, 2004: Message edited by: cammed3800 ]</p>

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Camaro_SLP:
                  I accept your challenge. I will buy a V8.
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                  I accept your challenge. I will spank your V8 in my V6. After I whip James at AIS.

                  yeah you dump well over 5000.00 into your car and run fast, then he spends at most 1000.00 and flys by you in heads up racing... [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] :rolleyes:


                  Sounds like someone's pissed off because he keeps getting eliminated in the first round
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                  Breaking out is a good thing in my book. What's wrong with beating your personal best?


                  nothing wrong with beating personnal best but thats another reason why bracket racing isnt as easy as you say it is


                  If you think that's difficult you SERIOUSLY need to drive ONE LAP on a road course--a true race track.

                  oh geez, next you will have a post saying " anyone who drag races and not road course races is a wimp" and give us ridiculous opinions why drag racing takes no skill because its just a straight line
                  [ January 08, 2004: Message edited by: cammed3800 ]

                  [ January 08, 2004: Message edited by: cammed3800 ]</p>

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                  • #24
                    But stefan..... with bracket racing, this is the ONLY way you have a CHANCE to beat me!!!!!

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                    • #25
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by cammed3800:
                      some people like relaxing when they take a drive, not shifting all the damn time, some peoples opionons are they just dont like manuals, i work to pay for my car, dont wanna come home and work to drive the thing. <hr></blockquote>

                      You consider driving a manual 'work'? When I drive my Honda 5-speed,,it's just instinctive. It can be fun too in the right conditions. But even in heavy traffic, I do not mind driving manual.

                      For all of you that have been sticking up for bracket racing, have you tried it before? You know everyone watching in the bleachers are laughing at you, right? ;)
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                      • #26
                        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr> And no, I stand by my statement, bracket racing an automatic does not take skill. Light turns green, hit gas. Where's the skill in that? If you think that's difficult you SERIOUSLY need to drive ONE LAP on a road course--a true race track <hr></blockquote>
                        that right there shows u have NEVER bracket raced in ur life which means arguing w/u is ignorant, there are MANY factors taht require lots of talent in bracket racing, go try and see!!
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                        • #27
                          For all of you that have been sticking up for bracket racing, have you tried it before? You know everyone watching in the bleachers are laughing at you, right?

                          Your a turd! Do you know when guys driving hondas blow your doors off they laugh at you driving a slow azz 3.4. Bracket racing is all thetrack around here does and cars that run 7-8 seconds bracket race, i doubt anyone is laughing at them. Plus most people who watch bracket racing arent morons like you. Alot think its pretty cool seeing a slower car win against a faster car. You are the typical riceboy honda owner, maybe you and your ricer friends are laughing at v6 fbodys, probably a jealousy thing, get over it

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                          • #28
                            If you don't have bracket racing then generally the person who has the most money wins. Simple as that.

                            Bracket racing makes the person that makes 20K a year competitive with the person that makes 200K a year.

                            Bracket racing requires more skill than heads up racing. Cutting a good light is far more important in bracket racing than heads up (unless the two cars are near equal in heads up).

                            Most tracks offer heads up and bracket racing. So if you don't like one, just do the other.
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                            • #29
                              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mjparme:
                              If you don't have bracket racing then generally the person who has the most money wins. Simple as that.

                              Bracket racing makes the person that makes 20K a year competitive with the person that makes 200K a year.

                              <hr></blockquote>


                              there you go... explains it right there...

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                              • #30
                                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Jerriko:
                                Wow, sounds like someone needs to learn how to race.<hr></blockquote>

                                If you are a skilled race car driver you'll realize bracket is easy.

                                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by WickEdSix9838:
                                that right there shows u have NEVER bracket raced in ur life which means arguing w/u is ignorant, there are MANY factors taht require lots of talent in bracket racing, go try and see!!<hr></blockquote>

                                For the record, yes, I have bracket raced many, many times and won many times as well. I am no rookie to drag racing... ;)

                                [ January 08, 2004: Message edited by: Stefan ]</p>

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