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**SilverTAWS6** · 02-11-2004, 11:36 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by elvis89fb:

no, thats not what i said, i said i think race fuel actually may have hurt my speed and time, dont know, but im posing the question, i have learned tho that i do need to advance my timeing to take advantage of what ever race fuel has to offer, i think, dont know, what do you think<hr></blockquote>

Well, when I asked about the huge difference and you responded "how about race gas and not advancing the timing, so I guess you could see how I might think that's what you were saying.

Race gas will not help an engine unless it is really modified (forced induction, HUGE cam and heads). Race gas will not help most cars, nor will it hurt them and cause them to run slower. You just won't be able to take advantage of it.

Like I said, I reviewed the times and the only way I can see to explain it is that the 75-78mph times were run n/a and the 88/97 were run on nitrous (maybe 100 and 150 shot?).

Why don't you list out your mods that you ran the car with. I see no reason why you're hiding them.
Notice I've been very nice in my posts, so no excuses that I was rude so you won't post them ;)

And could you PLEASE use some capital letter and punctuation? Your posts are hard to read
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Chris

**Jerriko** · 02-11-2004, 11:48 PM

The part I really don't get is when you compare the 60' times from his 11th and 12th run, there is almost 1 second difference (11th was 2.619 and the 12th was 1.721) but his 1/4 times were 16.023 for the 11th and 16.31 for the 12th. That just makes no sense. And since his 1/4 trap times increased 9 mph from the 11th to 12th run, there is just no way. And I am glad to see that members on his own board are questioning the numbers.

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 02:58 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Jerriko:

Reputation?
What reputation? When you are telling people of tall tales like 9s V6 n/a runs and 16.3 w/ 95ish trap speeds, you have a horrible reputation. We help people on these boards who ask questions, not tall tales. We are still helping the people on this board by letting anyone who doesn't know better that you claims are obsurd. Please explain to us how you think you are helping anyone out by your claims.<hr></blockquote>

your another dribbling idiot, im through wasting my time with you, i have no time for any more responses to idiots and im so sorry my friend, i have a excellent reputation, unlike you beleave me,respect you have no understanding of the word try another easier 2words (grow up), i have been more than willing to share your dribble with everyone down here and we are all having a good laugh on you, as a dear friend commented only tonite why spend your time responding to small minded idiots who have nothing to offer, as we get done with everything i will post it and you all can set there and scratch your tiny little heads and wonder how it all comes together, for those of you out there who would like to attempt to repeat my mod combination, i will be more than willing to give those truely interested in having a fast v6 too all the help i can until then stop the dribble do something really intelligent and shut up

**Jerriko** · 02-12-2004, 03:49 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by elvis89fb:

your another dribbling idiot, im through wasting my time with you, i have no time for any more responses to idiots and im so sorry my friend, i have a excellent reputation, unlike you beleave me,respect you have no understanding of the word try another easier 2words (grow up), i have been more than willing to share your dribble with everyone down here and we are all having a good laugh on you, as a dear friend commented only tonite why spend your time responding to small minded idiots who have nothing to offer, as we get done with everything i will post it and you all can set there and scratch your tiny little heads and wonder how it all comes together, for those of you out there who would like to attempt to repeat my mod combination, i will be more than willing to give those truely interested in having a fast v6 too all the help i can until then stop the dribble do something really intelligent and shut up<hr></blockquote>

If that's really the case then why won't you answer the questions that have been asked of you. Reread the entire thread. There are plenty of people that have asked you questions that you still haven't answered.

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:02 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by MustangEater8251:
SO the race fuel hurt your times? What did you do? run the tank down at the track, then drive to a gas station, and put some regular in it and ran faster?

Race fuel will not neccesarily hurt you, maybe just not help you I have run 100+ octane in my 94, didn't affect a thing just made it smell cool(reason for race gas, was I was sputterting so I put 1.5 gallons of race fuel in for the last 2 runs and drive to gas station after the track closed) Long term woudl effect o2s(if your in a FI car)

Timers are screwy...you say you cannot control your wheelspin but you hit a 1.7 60'? Thats hard not easy to hit, especially on stock suspension... What gears do you have(Yes I am asking a question could you please answer it, even asked politely) Stockv6cam hit a 1.8 on drag radials and 3.73s... which lead to a nice time but not so high mph... Also what tires are you on, Drag radials, slicks, definitely not street tires, unless you converted to AWD [img]smile.gif[/img]

and still running low 16s? with a 97mph trap? That means you might have spun and got a horrible run but like said you had a 1.7 60', which means you probably hooked well.

The first couple runs seem about right... I forgot what my 85 2.8L trapped but it ran mid to low 17s... I bet you could get a better 60' 2.3, is a little high, maybe a 2.0-2.2 depending on your gears, which woudl dip it down to the high 16s.

to help, my old 2.8L, had a K&N filters, bottom of the airbox cutout, 3 or 4in. tubing tunning to the grill and some sort of aftermarket exhaust, had a nice rumble. And a Accel ignition coil(also plugs and wires). I actually still have the ignition coil.

[ February 11, 2004: Message edited by: MustangEater8251 ]<hr></blockquote>

yes street tires, bf goodrich tiger paws, and yes i have cut out the bottom of the air box, and added hawkes stainless cold ram air scoops, they actually was one of the few mods that gave us little or no problem installing, although i have k&N filters in , i take them out at the track, split fire plugs and taylor wires, msd ignition with blaster2 coil and tower

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:04 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Jerriko:

MustangEater, I would't waste your time. He OBVIOUSLY isn't going to answer any of your questions. Remember, he's all about helping everyone out. That's why his 'project' is so secret. :rolleyes: <hr></blockquote>
dribble

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:06 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by MustangEater8251:

Could not have said it better myself!

I and many others have helped many a many other people. As for times with the 60* v6, I am usually the first to back them up... I would be willing to accept a 97mph trap speed, and a decent ET from a 60* v6, but you came up with b.s. numbers...

If anything you are the one polluting the site with useless dribble...

Also so you are saying by changing driving styles you gained 20 mph? Do you know how big of a difference 20mph is on a car? I am not even sure there woudl be a 20 mph difference if you went down the track at half throttle, then the next run full throttle!<hr></blockquote>

dribble

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:07 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Jerriko:
I suppose you could push the car down the track the first time and then run it the second time. Like, between runs I increased my mph by 80 and took a whole minute off the ET!!!<hr></blockquote>

more dribble

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:08 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Jerriko:
Hey, Freeser, where did you find the original posting that elvis listed the fake timeslip numbers?<hr></blockquote>

more dribble, these are not fake time slips or numbers

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:09 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
Keep it civil!<hr></blockquote>

thank you

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:11 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Jerriko:

Sorry to get carried away but did you see the times this person is claiming?
16.3 secs at 95ish mph<hr></blockquote>

not just claiming im doing

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:15 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Freeser:

Man, I went golfing a missed a lot, this thread just gets more amusing every time I look at it. Hey Elvis how about you post some real slips and I'm sure these fellas will be more than happy to help you. I mean hell MustangEater is asking you questions, trying to figure stuff out, and you are taking offense to it.

Jerriko the site is...

http://forums.scfba.net/

It's a florida f-body club. He is the moderator of the v6 forum.

Matt

[ February 11, 2004: Message edited by: Freeser ]<hr></blockquote>

i take offense at his attitude, language, name calling ,his lack of civility and his personal attack on my reputation, you let some one treat you like that and call you a liar and names then tell me what you think about it

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:17 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Jerriko:
?
Has anybody else visited this site and read about the all and mighty elvis. People are telling him things that he should already have known with his crack research group. What a joke! He didn't even know that backpressure was a bad idea for forced induction.
Geez!<hr></blockquote>

what back pressure what are you talking about geez more dribbling idiot talk

**elvis89fb** · 02-12-2004, 04:22 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Freeser:
I think that Elvis missed this post...

http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=6&t=019278

seriously the guys on that forum look up to him like he is a god or something.

Matt<hr></blockquote>

unlike this site, we have respect for one another, we look up to each and every one of us with respect, you wont find this kind of dribble on there, nor is it tolerated, nasty language, bad attitudes, non fbodys, drugs are not tolerated, we have a decent club and site

**SilverTAWS6** · 02-12-2004, 09:04 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by elvis89fb:

unlike this site, we have respect for one another, we look up to each and every one of us with respect, you wont find this kind of dribble on there, nor is it tolerated, nasty language, bad attitudes, non fbodys, drugs are not tolerated, we have a decent club and site<hr></blockquote>

Instead of responding to other posts with the word "dribble", how about responding to my post? You said you'd respond to people who asked legitimate questions, but you skipped over my post. If you need to see it again, here it is:

Well, when I asked about the huge difference and you responded "how about race gas and not advancing the timing, so I guess you could see how I might think that's what you were saying.

Race gas will not help an engine unless it is really modified (forced induction, HUGE cam and heads). Race gas will not help most cars, nor will it hurt them and cause them to run slower. You just won't be able to take advantage of it.

Like I said, I reviewed the times and the only way I can see to explain it is that the 75-78mph times were run n/a and the 88/97 were run on nitrous (maybe 100 and 150 shot?).

Why don't you list out your mods that you ran the car with. I see no reason why you're hiding them.
Notice I've been very nice in my posts, so no excuses that I was rude so you won't post them

And could you PLEASE use some capital letter and punctuation? Your posts are hard to read

Chris

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