Proving the "Very Stubborn Firebird Hater" wrong...

[njspder]

there are a few little things you can do to sway the odds in your favor too. pump up those front tires to about 55psi, and let the rears down to around 30(don't go much below that if you are on regular street radials). remove your jack and spare and any other useless crap that is in the car. don't do a huge burnout on street tires, jsut a little hoel shot to scrape any crap off them is enough for a street radial.
the biggest oen is to stage very shallow, roll forward slowly til you turn that top bulb on then stop immediately, then creep the car as gently as possible until you are barely far enough froward to turn on teh second set of stage lights and stop right there.

let us know hwo ti turns out

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tim

[njp98]

Yea I believe a well shifted manual will definately be better even if it is shifted precisely at the same time the auto does. Doesn't the auto's design itself inheriantly have more parasitic loss than a manual?

[DARK SDE '02]

Yes, but there's this little thing called torque converters and 3.42 gears. I'll admit the M5s are quite possibly a few tenths faster bone stock, but the potential of an A4 is very great with aftermarket goodies.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

why is TC better then a clutch?

and a manule can get any 3.42 also, and better clutches. so please explain this to me, also why are all the major drag racers manule and not auto if thay are so much better?

[Mighty Thor]

I'm ignoring the other post.

But with your Y87, it's in the bag. I have Road and Track, Motor Trend, and Hemming and the Y87 auto V6 F-body are doing 15.4-15.7 bone stock.

My advice, power brake it to 1800 rpm and then nail it.

[njspder]

Originally posted by BLUE:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BLLDOGG:

Originally posted by Nathan:
[qb] and maunals being faster than auto is [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img]

M5s are faster. :D Look at their trap speed. The only thing I can think of that A4s got over M5s are consistency and the convience of just pushing the gas pedal to move. M5s you actually have to DRIVE and have mad skillz to shift the gears and make the car go fastah.. ;) </font>

too bad the point of drag racing is to be quick(ET) not fast(MPH). you can have all the trap speed you want, an auto on equal mods will be more consistant and is almost always quicker.

later
tim

[njspder]

Originally posted by viper04af:
why is TC better then a clutch?

and a manule can get any 3.42 also, and better clutches. so please explain this to me, also why are all the major drag racers manule and not auto if thay are so much better?

when you drop teh clutch it is a shock to teh drive train. there is no tension of the components to help the suspension push down on the tires. with an auto you can power brake it up a bit and create load on the drivetrain and suspension before you launch. this means more cosistant 60ft times and less abuse on the drivetrain.

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tim

[asdf1234]

A4's have stock torque converters, which slip, and put less hp to the rear wheels. A well drivin M5 should be faster stock, with the same differential and gears and what not.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by njspder:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
why is TC better then a clutch?

and a manule can get any 3.42 also, and better clutches. so please explain this to me, also why are all the major drag racers manule and not auto if thay are so much better?

when you drop teh clutch it is a shock to teh drive train. there is no tension of the components to help the suspension push down on the tires. with an auto you can power brake it up a bit and create load on the drivetrain and suspension before you launch. this means more cosistant 60ft times and less abuse on the drivetrain.

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tim </font>[/QUOTE]you can power brake a M5 and you can slip the clutch....... next excuse

[njspder]

Originally posted by viper04af:
[/qb]you can power brake a M5 and you can slip the clutch....... next excuse [/QB]

you are off your rocker if you think slipping the clutch is the same thing as a TC launch. it is way different to how the car reacts and way more abusive on equipment.
how does one get a full power brake suspension load with a stick? this one i gotta hear.
i don't have any "excuses", i have been racing for 15years. i know what wins, and it ain't stick cars.

later
tim

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by njspder:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
you can power brake a M5 and you can slip the clutch....... next excuse [/QB]

you are off your rocker if you think slipping the clutch is the same thing as a TC launch. it is way different to how the car reacts and way more abusive on equipment.
how does one get a full power brake suspension load with a stick? this one i gotta hear.
i don't have any "excuses", i have been racing for 15years. i know what wins, and it ain't stick cars.

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tim [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]then why are top fule cars all stick?

ehh i didn't mean sliping the clutch i meant feathering, you can put a load on everything with a clutch,
EG. if im on a hill i can hold my car at a cetain rpm and feather the clutch to hold me in that spot with out touching the brakes.

you can do the same thing when you lanch only you'll have to use the brake of coures. at least that how i lanch
droping the clutch only make you brake your tires loose and lowers your lanch RPM so you don't break them lose,
if you know how to feather it you can lanch higher rpm and still not break Traction becuase all the power is not getting tothe rear tires. its excaly what a TC does only you the driver control it. and its the smae thing the top fule clutches do only the driver don't hve to mess with it the clutch has teath that grab and the more they the more they grab the more power goes to the wheels, this keeps them from lossing traction

[Shirl]

Amen.... [img]graemlins/bowdown.gif[/img]

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by njspder:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
you can power brake a M5 and you can slip the clutch....... next excuse [/QB]

you are off your rocker if you think slipping the clutch is the same thing as a TC launch. it is way different to how the car reacts and way more abusive on equipment.
how does one get a full power brake suspension load with a stick? this one i gotta hear.
i don't have any "excuses", i have been racing for 15years. i know what wins, and it ain't stick cars.

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tim [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]To power brake a car with a manual, you would use a line lock. It's pretty easy. Comparing parasitic loss is 30 hp for the auto to 5 hp for the manual. Only problem is that the extra 25 hp gained by the manual can be used to spin the tires which of course makes the car slower. Only skilled drivers can overcome this.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Jerriko:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by njspder:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
you can power brake a M5 and you can slip the clutch....... next excuse

you are off your rocker if you think slipping the clutch is the same thing as a TC launch. it is way different to how the car reacts and way more abusive on equipment.
how does one get a full power brake suspension load with a stick? this one i gotta hear.
i don't have any "excuses", i have been racing for 15years. i know what wins, and it ain't stick cars.

later
tim [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]To power brake a car with a manual, you would use a line lock. It's pretty easy. Comparing parasitic loss is 30 hp for the auto to 5 hp for the manual. Only problem is that the extra 25 hp gained by the manual can be used to spin the tires which of course makes the car slower. Only skilled drivers can overcome this. [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE] i dont need line locks to power brake my car

[02PewterBird]

Originally posted by Jerriko:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by njspder:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
you can power brake a M5 and you can slip the clutch....... next excuse

you are off your rocker if you think slipping the clutch is the same thing as a TC launch. it is way different to how the car reacts and way more abusive on equipment.
how does one get a full power brake suspension load with a stick? this one i gotta hear.
i don't have any "excuses", i have been racing for 15years. i know what wins, and it ain't stick cars.

later
tim [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]To power brake a car with a manual, you would use a line lock. It's pretty easy. Comparing parasitic loss is 30 hp for the auto to 5 hp for the manual. Only problem is that the extra 25 hp gained by the manual can be used to spin the tires which of course makes the car slower. Only skilled drivers can overcome this. [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]So the more power a car has the more the tires spin, making more powerful cars slower?