Proving the "Very Stubborn Firebird Hater" wrong...

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by 02PewterBird:

So the more power a car has the more the tires spin, making more powerful cars slower?

To an idiot driver, sure. If you bother to read everything I wrote, you will notice I say a more skilled driver is needed to NOT spin the tires of a car with a manual. Not to mention that I was talking about the amount of power going to the rear wheels, not the amount of power the car generates. Please learn to read. [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img]

And Viper, I am glad to know that you have 3 feet. :D Besides, line locks should be used on any car if you do a lot of power braking. It tends to eat up the rear brakes.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Jerriko:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 02PewterBird:

So the more power a car has the more the tires spin, making more powerful cars slower?

To an idiot driver, sure. If you bother to read everything I wrote, you will notice I say a more skilled driver is needed to NOT spin the tires of a car with a manual. Not to mention that I was talking about the amount of power going to the rear wheels, not the amount of power the car generates. Please learn to read. [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img]

And Viper, I am glad to know that you have 3 feet. :D Besides, line locks should be used on any car if you do a lot of power braking. It tends to eat up the rear brakes. </font>[/QUOTE]ehh one foot for clutch and use other for brake and gas

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by viper04af:
ehh one foot for clutch and use other for brake and gas

That just doesn't sound smart but its your car. Don't be cheap, buy a line lock and save your rear brakes.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Jerriko:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
ehh one foot for clutch and use other for brake and gas

That just doesn't sound smart but its your car. Don't be cheap, buy a line lock and save your rear brakes. </font>[/QUOTE]how is it not smart, put one foot and push on the brake and roll it over to hit the gas, lol should not need WOT unless you got slick back there

[12secondv6]

Originally posted by viper04af:
why is TC better then a clutch?

and a manule can get any 3.42 also, and better clutches. so please explain this to me, also why are all the major drag racers manule and not auto if thay are so much better?

Actually, they are a modification of an auto.

Typically, manual cars TRAP high MPH's than auto's
Manual cars are great for autocrossing

Auto's seem to be better for drag racing 1/4 mile.

I am making a VERY generic statement... but auto seems to be more favorable for the 1/4 and 1/8 mile track's

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by 12secondv6:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
why is TC better then a clutch?

and a manule can get any 3.42 also, and better clutches. so please explain this to me, also why are all the major drag racers manule and not auto if thay are so much better?

Actually, they are a modification of an auto.

Typically, manual cars TRAP high MPH's than auto's
Manual cars are great for autocrossing

Auto's seem to be better for drag racing 1/4 mile.

I am making a VERY generic statement... but auto seems to be more favorable for the 1/4 and 1/8 mile track's </font>[/QUOTE]put it this way

if you could make 2 cars exalcy the same exact same power ect (i know impossible but if it could happen)
only 1 was M5 and the other a A4. and only the best drivers, running the car say 100 times, what car is goign to have lowest avg. et?

[12secondv6]

Good point.....but

Auto owner will NEVER miss a gear, manual driver can

Auto driver's drivetrain sucks more power through drivetrain loss

19-21 % driveline loss with an auto
15-17 % driveline loss with a manual

I understand your point... but also factor in what I said too [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

so the m5 trap speed is higher, what exacly does that mean ? better top end right?

[RedFrk13]

Originally posted by viper04af:
so the m5 trap speed is higher, what exacly does that mean ? better top end right?

yes, m5 will have more top end because the is less drivetrain loss. For the common driver, autos are must easier to launch and more consistant.

[12secondv6]

Originally posted by viper04af:
so the m5 trap speed is higher, what exacly does that mean ? better top end right?

Typically, yes.

Take a look at our timeslips page, mostly all manuals trap higher than auto's

Combination of slightly different internal gearing and less loss of power through drivetrane

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by 12secondv6:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
so the m5 trap speed is higher, what exacly does that mean ? better top end right?

Typically, yes.

Take a look at our timeslips page, mostly all manuals trap higher than auto's

Combination of slightly different internal gearing and less loss of power through drivetrane </font>[/QUOTE]i guess i dont get how yo can trap higher and still have the same ET. i know the 60' matters alot.... i just dont see how it all ties in

umm what about 1/8 mile do we trap higher there too?

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by viper04af:
how is it not smart, put one foot and push on the brake and roll it over to hit the gas, lol should not need WOT unless you got slick back there

How doesn't that sound smart?
While you have the brake pedal pressed down, the brakes try to engage. Of course the front ones lock, but the rear ones still try to clamp down. Spinning the tires while the rear brakes try to lock glazes the rear brakes, causes excessive heat and wear that will damage the brake system. How does that sound smart?

[1DangerousV6]

yeah man you should definitely be in the 15s with 3.42s ...try using a cutout to open up that exhaust before the cat...makes a big difference...did for me anyway...unless he wants you to go COMPLETELY factory (sorry i missed the earlier post) ..in that case...good luck!!

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Jerriko:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
how is it not smart, put one foot and push on the brake and roll it over to hit the gas, lol should not need WOT unless you got slick back there

How doesn't that sound smart?
While you have the brake pedal pressed down, the brakes try to engage. Of course the front ones lock, but the rear ones still try to clamp down. Spinning the tires while the rear brakes try to lock glazes the rear brakes, causes excessive heat and wear that will damage the brake system. How does that sound smart? </font>[/QUOTE]for every fun reaction theres chance of a expensive ehhhh you know but still i don't do it like everyday (kinda hard when im 4000 miles from the car lol

[Mighty Thor]

Guys are so off the topic.

What's the result already?