possible 10s??

[Sparticus]

Originally posted by Shirl:
Whole thing is tuning and getting the mods to work together. Then learning to drive it at the track. I remember you were frustrated with this setup because of some issues. I was frustrated too for a while until I finally got autotap. There is no tuning tool for my 96'that I know of, which is why I had to do readings and tuning on my own. My PCM has no adjustments to it, it's stock. I didn't even go to the dyno for a wideband because I don't trust the guy around here that dynos cars. He's thrown codes on cars and then acts like nothing's wrong...usually it's just the abs sensor getting knocked off..plus, he's gotta be pushing 350lbs at least and I'd rather not have someone that big messing with my car, driving it and doing holeshots/runs on the sidestreets (which is partially how he tunes/checks the car)...Anyway, do you have HP or another program to tune with?

You can get a 97 PCM and use HP Tuners to tune your car.. ;)

[1DangerousV6]

Shirl..hell no would i want someone doing that with my car either! lol ..i have HP Tuners..i have increased shift points, rev limiter, fuel cut off, played with fan activation temps..however since i run nitrous i have left the timing stock..im not sure that it has really decreased my ET though..do you think i should just go back to the stock PCM for this setup since that seems to work (VERY) well for you?..then the only changes i would make would be recalibrating for the 3.42 gear ratio and the 32# fuel injectors

also..since your PCM is stock..what do you use to pull timing?..im sure for the boost you just use the boost timing module..but what about for the nitrous?..do you bother pulling timing for that or just run on stock? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ January 10, 2005, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: 1DangerousV6 ]

[Wicked 3800 V6]

OK is this crap. One dude is like "ya 10's are possible, my friend ran a 13.9 in his V6 mustang on a 100 shot"

Listen, if you want to learn about 12s, 11s, 10's, go over to LS1Tech and see some of the mods that THOSE GUYS have to do to get that far. Then imagine what we'd have to do to get that far, i.e. a lot more.

I wish you lots of luck, but IMO why don't you find 12s and then come back and post.

edit: OMG, sorry art, didn't realize you posted the same thing. Must have been subliminal as I skimmed the thread.

[1DangerousV6]

eh..i could probably break into the 12s with my dry system alone..nevermind the dry system and the blower..nevermind the dry system and a direct port system..not so concerned about that..the car is running mid - high 14s right now n/a..the blower puts about 70 - 75hp to the wheels..to break into the 13s i only need about 40..after that..to break into the 12s i need about 60..i think a little tuning and a 100 - 125 shot will take care of that ;)

[12secondv6]

Practice practice practice...... and have fun.

My bird has 180 RWHP.... and I can get into the 13's N/A with 3:23's!

Yes it is a light car..... but I know my car soooooo well!

[1DangerousV6]

thats all i do lol..i've got a strip here marked off so well that i time myself with..farthest off i've ever been from real track times was 3 tenths!..it gives me a good idea where i stand

[CANTONRACER]

I personally think you can get high 11's out of your combo if everything holds up and it gets worked out.

About the stock 10 bolt...garbage. I have gone as quick as 1.63 on it in my Z28, but I rebuilt it twice which cost me $800 doing it myself. I could have spent another $1K and got a rearend that would never give me problems. I eventually did get a 12 bolt and basically pissed away a chunk of time and $800.

You will see guys post about it...luck, and only luck. There are an army of guys snapping them in the 13's.

Just like many things in life...easy to say what you want but getting and doing is a whole different story.

[1DangerousV6]

11s would rock..but like Shirl was saying..i dont want to be pushing my luck every time i go out..i love to race so during the season im out like every week..so i'd really like to just be well into the 12s..not like a 12.9 - 12.8 ..too inconsistant..too close to low 13s ..i'd like to run mid 12s so im pretty consistantly running them...being out every week..and running the car all the time practicing over the winter has allowed me to progress pretty quickly i think..given all the info from you guys here too of course..when i first started at the track i was running high 14s - low 15s..finished with a PB of 13.60 ..now as soon as i put the blower and injectors in..and drop the fuel jet in the bypass T to a 30 - 36 to increase fuel pressure..im expecting mid 12s..i would expect that from doing gears, injectors, weight reduction, increased shot, increased boost by 2psi, and drag tires..and of course tuning for the changes [img]smile.gif[/img]

[KBeezy]

10s can be had with a stock 10 bolt [img]smile.gif[/img] Just dont expect it to last long [img]smile.gif[/img]

[1DangerousV6]

haha..yeah..i mean dont get me wrong..i think i COULD hit 10s if i REALLY wanted to..but as a lot of more experienced members said..i wouldnt happen without breaking a lot of expensive sh*t lol..maybe i'll do it when im done with that car and moving on to a new one..i'll run 10psi and a 200 wet shot and see if it even makes it to the 1/8 haha :D

[greatsave9]

Two words: "Weight Reduction"

[20-psi]

Don't forget to do the other things you need to run 10's like a full cage and suspension. My mustang had heads, cam, intake, suspension and 175 shot to run 10.97 @123.

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/468974

Here are some pictures of mine and my friends cars showing what happens when they go fast.

Pete

[1DangerousV6]

yeah i've stripped 204 lbs. out of my car so far [img]smile.gif[/img]

20-psi ..checked out your page..SIIICK

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by Shirl:
Whole thing is tuning and getting the mods to work together. Then learning to drive it at the track. I remember you were frustrated with this setup because of some issues. I was frustrated too for a while until I finally got autotap. There is no tuning tool for my 96'that I know of, which is why I had to do readings and tuning on my own. My PCM has no adjustments to it, it's stock. I didn't even go to the dyno for a wideband because I don't trust the guy around here that dynos cars. He's thrown codes on cars and then acts like nothing's wrong...usually it's just the abs sensor getting knocked off..plus, he's gotta be pushing 350lbs at least and I'd rather not have someone that big messing with my car, driving it and doing holeshots/runs on the sidestreets (which is partially how he tunes/checks the car)...Anyway, do you have HP or another program to tune with?

DHP supports 96 pcms. We already did mine.

[njspder]

Originally posted by WickEdSix9838:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by njspder:
a 10bolt has been proven plenty strotn to run 10's with by enough people. i would look into a bit more gear though. 3.73's with a stock height tire would help, 4.10's with a stock height tire woudl get teh job done.

later
tim

In an automatic they have been. In a manual, not likely, unless you have gobs of power where u can still run some weenie DR's, cut 2.2 60', and still run high 10's at 140+mph. </font>[/QUOTE]10bolts have been behind plenty of 3rd and 4th gen stick cars and lived healthy happy lives.
also, why would you cut 2.2 short times? look at little g, he has a 5spd, he cuts high 1.8's and low 1.9's all the time and his rear doesn't make the slightest sound after a hundred or more shots.

lastly, if you run 140+ and are only in the high 10's, your chassis combo must suck monkey balls. you can easily get into the 10's with out breaking out of the 120's, i have even seen a lot of guys who's cars leave really hard get in around 118mph.

cars are not complicated, going fast does not require mega bucks parts and hard to live with combo's. think simple, think parts matching. you will go faster and have a better built car.

later
tim