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  • #16
    Originally posted by brink:
    Ya I really feel like my take off is lacking, in my 3.4 I could take off like a champ (never ran @ the track)..

    Could the removed CAT have anything to do with it?

    Could the air filter be partly my problem though?


    what should my 60 time be around. im going again this coming sat. maybe i just had a bad launch. the air was so humide also, was terrible. I'm getting my K&N tomorrow, we'll see if that helps the ram air that i made at all.
    Well your not going to pick up .4 with a new air cleaner. And really that '60 is just about right for the time you ran, for 15.9 thats a great '60, if your gonna be getting Z-28 you might as well leave the v6 as it sits now, save up for a down payment to go along with the v6, also you have to realize the more mods you do the less a dealership will take for it, i'd slap a cat back in before you sell it.

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    • #17
      BTW i didnt read everyones post, but people say you loose torque and takeoff power with a low restiction exhaust. ITS BS. your car will have more torque as well as horsepower with an open exhaust.

      Sounds like you need to do some reading and some research. http://mods.firebirdv6.com/ just read the crap out of this section and you will become very knowledged with modifications and exactly what they do. yes your 60 has everything to do with your time, but not so much your top speed. I burned out 1/8mile down the track and only lost 1 mph, but my 1/4 mile time was almost 19 seconds. practice the launches and stalls.


      THESE WILL GET YOU INTO THE 14's:
      3.42s and a 2800-3300 stall converter. They will keep driveability, but will knock off a few tenths in your 60ft time.

      Full exhaust and cutout, gtp cam, ported intake and TB and you could be hitting 13s with alot of practice behind the wheel.

      Work with the basics and the mods that will give gains, instead of 2 or 3 hp here and there. get the main mods first. exhaust, gears, high stall, cam, intake(not just a little tube and cone filter)(im talking about Porting and polishing the thing!!!)

      make a little money buy the parts and paint up your old parts to sell them on ebay.

      oh yeah i almost forgot, our cars are almost two tons. get your car to 2800 lbs and you will probably see 14s with your mods.

      three words RESEARCH!!!RESEARCH!!!RESEARCH!!!
      96 Camaro 3.8 A4 Basemodel: 8 mm wires, Shift Kit, Hollowed <br />Cat(o2 sims), RKSport exhaust, IAT 5.6K resistor, Home Depot CAI<br />&gt;&gt;&gt;15.375 @ 89.27&lt;&lt;&lt;NEW BEST TIME <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/552491\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/552491</a>

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      • #18
        I can burnout in the water.. just not on the track, at i got a bad launch because of my stomach ache, right when i looked up all both of my warning lights were on and his came on right after, i didnt even have time to react really..

        but is still wasnt a bad run for my first time, im going back this sat. it was really fun.. ;)
        brink<br />1998 White Camaro 3.8L V6:<br />Flowmaster Exhaust<br />No cat (straight pipe)<br />Free Ram-Air<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/98camaro98\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/98camaro98</a>

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        • #19
          good luck man, and just relax at the lights.

          "for those 15 seconds or less...your free..."
          not quite fast and furious, but whatever.

          remember man, have fun and be safe!!
          96 Camaro 3.8 A4 Basemodel: 8 mm wires, Shift Kit, Hollowed <br />Cat(o2 sims), RKSport exhaust, IAT 5.6K resistor, Home Depot CAI<br />&gt;&gt;&gt;15.375 @ 89.27&lt;&lt;&lt;NEW BEST TIME <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/552491\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/552491</a>

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          • #20
            yea first and only time i went the track, i ran a 15.3 3 times, and look at my list of mods, i have the y87 package also (3.42 + LSD) along with the LCAs and the potenza tires i ran a 2.1 60'. But i did expect better times than that for the mods i have, but a P1780 coded trans isnt gonna help out much tho. hahha cant wait to get money to get rid of this POS trans.
            99\' W68 Firebird<br />SLP Ram air kit,Whisper Air Lid, k&n, 8mm Taylor Wires, Bridgestone Potenzas RE950, BMR Red LCAs, Pacesetter Headers and 3\"in catalytic converter with 2.75\" Flowmaster Cat-back<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008</a>

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            • #21
              Originally posted by 99W68Firebird:
              yea first and only time i went the track, i ran a 15.3 3 times, and look at my list of mods, i have the y87 package also (3.42 + LSD) along with the LCAs and the potenza tires i ran a 2.1 60'. But i did expect better times than that for the mods i have, but a P1780 coded trans isnt gonna help out much tho. hahha cant wait to get money to get rid of this POS trans.
              P1870 Code? Slipping Component?

              Got that fixxed for $1,200 but it required a complete rebiuld...
              1997 Camaro RS W/T-Tops<br />All Stock / 200 HP

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              • #22
                yea one place wanted to rebuild it for $1300 but why not spend $300 more, and get fully performance rebuilt 4L60E installed.
                99\' W68 Firebird<br />SLP Ram air kit,Whisper Air Lid, k&n, 8mm Taylor Wires, Bridgestone Potenzas RE950, BMR Red LCAs, Pacesetter Headers and 3\"in catalytic converter with 2.75\" Flowmaster Cat-back<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008</a>

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by navyblue2000:
                  Go look at your RPO codes - GU4 = 3.08's, GU6 = 3.42's. Also...If you're not able to burn out how are you getting out of the hole that slow? Are you spinning tires at the strip and not on the street (common actually)??

                  How were you launching?
                  I cant spin the tires @ lunach on the street or at the track, my launch feels so slow before it starts climbing to the higher rpm's .. My 3.4 could launch a lot quicker then my 3.8 and it had a lower gear.. I launch by stalling @ about 1500 rpms then letting off the brake, still no spining of the tires. Hell, i can literaly stall til 2000 rpms in my car, smash the pedal and let go of the brake, and my tires wont spin what so ever, and my launch is still pretty slow. If I hold down the brake and slam the gas, it stalls to 2000 rpms and wont go any higher, thus not letting me burnout. I dont know, my SES light stays on because i have a removed cat.. i think im going to order an o2 sim soon to make it stay off..
                  brink<br />1998 White Camaro 3.8L V6:<br />Flowmaster Exhaust<br />No cat (straight pipe)<br />Free Ram-Air<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/98camaro98\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/98camaro98</a>

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                  • #24
                    You're car is probably not running optimally with the removed cat and the stock O2 sensor in there.

                    The readings it's picking up is going to change the way your car runs, not just throw a code.
                    2000 GTP<br />Pulley, Intake<br />ET - 14.02<br />Trap - 97.15

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                    • #25
                      so should i put a cat there or buy a new o2 sensor / sim.
                      brink<br />1998 White Camaro 3.8L V6:<br />Flowmaster Exhaust<br />No cat (straight pipe)<br />Free Ram-Air<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/98camaro98\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/98camaro98</a>

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JohnD.:
                        You're car is probably not running optimally with the removed cat and the stock O2 sensor in there.

                        The readings it's picking up is going to change the way your car runs, not just throw a code.
                        The post-cat sensor has no effect on how the engine runs. Just turns on the SES to let you know the cat's not working like it should. ;)
                        Matt
                        1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
                        Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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                        • #27
                          then what could be restricting my take off? as you can see, my 60 time sucks.
                          brink<br />1998 White Camaro 3.8L V6:<br />Flowmaster Exhaust<br />No cat (straight pipe)<br />Free Ram-Air<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/98camaro98\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/98camaro98</a>

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                          • #28
                            your 60' time sucks because it was your first time at the track with the car, duh. it takes practice to get good consistant times. every car drives diffrent. you need to learn how it drives. when I first went to the track my 3.4 got all 2.4 60's. now I get consistant 2.2's just from getting practice. and I belive the stock stall converter is somewhere between 1800-2000 rpm FYI
                            95 Firebird<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/673250\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/673250</a> <br /> <a href=\"http://photobucket.com/albums/y217/andrewbrandon19/\" target=\"_blank\">http://photobucket.com/albums/y217/andrewbrandon19/</a> <br /><br />me on a good day------&gt; <a href=\"http://communicatio.webblogg.se/images/wet_cat_113159625.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">linky</a>

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                            • #29
                              I ran 10 flat on 1/8th stock... 3.08's... no lsd... A4...ect. Your def. gonna need an 02 sim.~I don't know how it effects anything but it's nice 2 not run a light~~ and at this point... a tune up would prolly be best if your wanting any kind of performance out of it. Also... get 2 tha track early and let your car sit 4 as long as u can... the cooler the better~stick some octane booster in thR also. g/luck

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                              • #30
                                just buy a o2 sim its a lot cheaper then getting a hole new cat im have the same problems ses light comes on because my cat is gutted now i know why i didnt run that well
                                R/T .636
                                60' 2.163
                                330 6.361
                                1/8 9.831
                                MPH 71.40
                                1000 12.805
                                1/4 15.369
                                MPH 88.34
                                2000 camaro rs:whisperlid, 2.5 magnaflow exhaust, catco high flow cat, fast toys cai, 3.73, 160 power stat, msd 8.5 wires ngk iridium spark plugs, hpp3, zzp w/p and alt. under drive pullies, 1.9 Rockers/LS6 Springs with ls1 retainers

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