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doesn't help that no matter what you do (other than drop your life savings into the car) will cure the horrible airflow the L36 has in the upper RPM band.
LS1 > 3800...true story. Props to some of you guys but any LS1 with some work will destroy your fastest 3800 here.
Some one on this board made 460lb/ft to the WHEELS on nitrous. Right before they blew the intake off. Average dyno for a 100 shot is around 390lb/ft at the wheels. Thats damn close to 450 at the flywheel. My point stands, its still way more than an LS1.
Which means more average HP, and that is what wins races.
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your basing it off a STOCK LS1...that's like trying to find a stock 5.0
Seriously you guys have gotten pretty respectable times/numbers but when a simple bolt-on LS1 can trap in the low/mid 110s a 3800 simply isn't going to hang.
Originally posted by 99camaro99: your basing it off a STOCK LS1...that's like trying to find a stock 5.0
Seriously you guys have gotten pretty respectable times/numbers but when a simple bolt-on LS1 can trap in the low/mid 110s a 3800 simply isn't going to hang.
bird200 was originally talking about being able to beat a stock/lightly modded LS1 with juice. Can he do it? Probably not with just N20, but with supporting mods, intake, exhaust + gears, I don't see why he shouldn't. This isn't an argument of which is better LS1 or L36, or which can go faster with the same bolt-ons. He just wanted to know if nitrous would be enough to beat the car he would've originally gotten before he got his 6, an LS1.
Originally posted by phoenix64: Some one on this board made 460lb/ft to the WHEELS on nitrous. Right before they blew the intake off. Average dyno for a 100 shot is around 390lb/ft at the wheels. Thats damn close to 450 at the flywheel. My point stands, its still way more than an LS1.
Which means more average HP, and that is what wins races.
fwiw kristen made 310rwhp/360ftlb with 100 shot, heads,cam with a "professional" tune.
00 GTP<br />98 Camaro v6<br />See, told ya I\'d be rockin another 4th gen :D<br />V6 & V8 tuning available at <a href=\"http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/\" target=\"_blank\">http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/</a>
Originally posted by Chris Camaro:
[pwned? not exactly, the hp may be "5 more", but beating him by a second is one thing, but when i eat camaros and t/a's like there nothin, ill try and find this link, Z06 headers and exhaust and intake beats tons of ferraris , lambo's, porches just everything. and im sure that t/a was a ws6 right. so where this guy says "pwned", not seein it.... [/QB]
you can't even spell porsche so one way or the other you were owned.
00 GTP<br />98 Camaro v6<br />See, told ya I\'d be rockin another 4th gen :D<br />V6 & V8 tuning available at <a href=\"http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/\" target=\"_blank\">http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/</a>
Seriously you guys have gotten pretty respectable times/numbers but when a simple bolt-on LS1 can trap in the low/mid 110s a 3800 simply isn't going to hang.
Why are you on this site if you're not here to encourage our members? The 3.8 is an awesome motor with PLENTY OF POTENTIAL.
Originally posted by 99camaro99: doesn't help that no matter what you do (other than drop your life savings into the car) will cure the horrible airflow the L36 has in the upper RPM band.
LS1 > 3800...true story. Props to some of you guys but any LS1 with some work will destroy your fastest 3800 here.
how much work it some? cuase i just put a frown on a vette today (look to be a 03-04)
www.turbov6camaro.com 1997 3800 Series II Camaro 4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug: 7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod) 11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty
hey viper, hows ur car runnnin? get the kit on? please get a video of it, ur car is sweet, im interested in how much boost ur motor will hold and what hp numbers ur gonna be puttin out.
Originally posted by Chris Camaro: hey viper, hows ur car runnnin? get the kit on? please get a video of it, ur car is sweet, im interested in how much boost ur motor will hold and what hp numbers ur gonna be puttin out.
yeah i just got the fuel pump in so i was staying under 10psi (only hit 12 psi one or 2 times to make sure the HPT fixed worked) and i'm turning it up slow..... also my lap top died and a new one is on order so i can't log anything right now....... so i'm playing it safe for the moment....
www.turbov6camaro.com 1997 3800 Series II Camaro 4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug: 7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod) 11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty
Originally posted by viper04af: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Chris Camaro: hey viper, hows ur car runnnin? get the kit on? please get a video of it, ur car is sweet, im interested in how much boost ur motor will hold and what hp numbers ur gonna be puttin out.
yeah i just got the fuel pump in so i was staying under 10psi (only hit 12 psi one or 2 times to make sure the HPT fixed worked) and i'm turning it up slow..... also my lap top died and a new one is on order so i can't log anything right now....... so i'm playing it safe for the moment.... </font>[/QUOTE]Obviously, I am missing something here. 10-12 psi for fuel pressure? Please, fill me in since I know you need a lot more than that.
Originally posted by Jerriko: Obviously, I am missing something here. 10-12 psi for fuel pressure? Please, fill me in since I know you need a lot more than that.
10-12 psi of boost... he doesn't want to go higher because he didn't have the fuel to support it.
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If it helps any to the first question. I have a 3800 in my camaro. and my dad has a 02 35th ann SS and if i run him on the street by the time the quarter mile passes he has about 6 car lenghts on me. but His car has SLP longtubes, GMMG exhaust, granitelli TB and MAF with the fasttoys ram air. so he is not exactly stock.
My car has the K&N cold air kit. and LS1 muffler on the back along with a LS1 Driveshaft (lighter)
But still all said. he puts about 5-6 car lenghts on me in the quarter. i would base it on that.
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