2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

[factoryfreak v6 firebird]

me and 5 of my buddies are going to the track next sunday they all all between 94-96 camaro z28's and firebird formulas , all are automatic and all have just exhaust and intake. they run 9.5's and 9.6's in the 1/8th. i currently run 9.90 with cai, exhaust. ,and a slow start. i currently have to wait 10 ft after i start going to floor the car otherwise i will be spinning all the way down the track,
My question is if i put on a 75 shot of wet nitrous, mickey thompson drag radials and 114 octane do i have a chance to beat them? i will be using the nitrous at 2500 rpm and i will be able to floor the car right away and get traction?
please tell me your thoughts

[FloydSummerOf68]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

Yes you should run right with them or quicker if you get a good launch.
Run your tank dry and only put a gallon or two of race fuel for the nitrous.

Also swap to NGK TR6 plugs before the race,...and its usually a rule of thumb to spray at 3500 and over to avoid puddling and such.

[Shodown]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

9.5's and 9.6's in the 1/8th is TERRIBLE for even stock LT1's!!! I've seen them go 9.2's consistlently without CAI and exhaust. What is the elevation of the track? Is is hot/humid where you live?

Anyway, with a 75 shot, CAI, cat-back exhaust, DR's, 92+ octane fuel, yeah you should be able to smoke them pretty good. A 3500 torque converter make a HUGE difference too. But, you shouldnt spray under 3,000 RPM. 3000 is the MINIMUM, like Floyd said, try around 3500 to be safe.

You dont need to run any higher than Premium pump gas either. 114 octane is going to be a waste of money, just use 92+ and you will be fine. 114 wont make any difference compared to 92, especially on a 75 shot.

As far as traction goes, with the DR's you should be able to spray off the line and not spin too bad if at all. That will be trial and error, practice a few times and if you dont hook up, just arm the n2o right before the 60 ft mark (estimate) and see if that is any better.

Good luck and keep us updated on what happens!! :rock:

[factoryfreak v6 firebird]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

i have tr6-ix they are irdium spark plug but one heat colder than stock range,
i live (fort myers) aka southwest florida, like 85-89 degrees at night and this race we will be racing at like 4 so like 90-91degree maybe because its on a runday sunday thing which the track is open from 11-5:30. so i dont want my car going out in the middle of the day because our cars run like shyt, not so bad no more since the 180 degree thermostat though. well keep ya updated
I have exhaust w/ no cat, ram air intake with k & n filter but i take the filter out at the track (seem to make the car run a little better)

[Shodown]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

Well that makes a little more sense as to why they are running so slow. Cuz 9.5 in the 1/8 is ~14.7 (ish) in the quarter and LT1's run low 14's stock.

I think you have a pretty dam good shot at beating them as long as you get a good launch. Like I said, try spraying off the line and if you spin, just arm the spray after the lauch.

[factoryfreak v6 firebird]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

spray right when i get off? i wont be at 3500 rpm then will i? can i rev the engine up to like 2000 rpms and just floor it or will i still spin as if i had street tires(i didnt do that at the track i eased into it)

[factoryfreak v6 firebird]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

also can i try spraying at 100 shot, i will only spray it twice thats it and then go back down to 75 i will not keep it on 100 dont want to blow anything. just want to make sure i beat them lol

[FloydSummerOf68]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

You SHOULD run some race fuel in there if you dont have the ability to pull timing off of your spark tables via hptuners...the race gas will have the same effect.

[Fbody3400]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

Well that makes a little more sense as to why they are running so slow. Cuz 9.5 in the 1/8 is ~14.7 (ish) in the quarter and LT1's run low 14's stock.

Not bibby's :p

[Shodown]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

Not bibby's :p

Tis true...:)

[Shodown]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

You SHOULD run some race fuel in there if you dont have the ability to pull timing off of your spark tables via hptuners...the race gas will have the same effect.

Thats a good point, but I was assuming he would pull some timing out.

If you are not going to pull any timing out, then the 114 is a good idea.

also can i try spraying at 100 shot, i will only spray it twice thats it and then go back down to 75 i will not keep it on 100 dont want to blow anything. just want to make sure i beat them lol

I dont suggest trying the 100 shot and cutting corners doing so just to beat someone. Blowing a headgasket or running lean isnt worth the pride of winning one race.

When I said "spray off the line" I meant having the nitrous armed and ready to spray as soon as you hit WOT or 3000 rpms, I didnt mean spraying as soon as you hit the gas. With street tires in 1st gear at WOT with nitrous you will break the tires loose and spin really badly. I have Riken Raptor Z rated tires that are sticky as hell but if I spray off the line I break'em loose with an 80 wet shot. This may not happen with DR's though, thats why you need to go out and test it to see what happens.

[FloydSummerOf68]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

Melt the MT's and you will dead hook with no problem.

[factoryfreak v6 firebird]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

alright how bout an 80 or 85 shot of wet nitrous with 114 octane? i have msd spark plug wires and tr6-ix plugs. if i absol. have to add the msd dis 4 and ciu i will but if i can get by running 80-85 shot with 114 octane would rather do that

[FloydSummerOf68]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

You're safer sticking with 75...the stock fuel pump is what is limiting you.

[rudy q]

Re: 2001 Firebird A4 vs 5 LT1 Camaro in the 1/8th mile

you sould be good with just 92+ with a 75.... make sure you run colder plugs good luck