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  • #16
    Re: 13.61 cam only

    The term "cam-only" to me implies that the heads, intake and bottom end are stock. Ie. no porting/polishing, upgraded valvetrain, pistons, rods, crank, etc.

    Each person is going to have their own definition. But regardless it's an awesome NA time Shawn!
    1994 Firebird 3.4<br />15.65 @ 86.8<br /><a href=\"http://www.funkz.net/firebird.htm\" target=\"_blank\">funkz.net/firebird</a><br /><a href=\"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/funkz/timeslips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Timeslips</a>

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    • #17
      Re: 13.61 cam only

      You dont think you should be able to have upgraded springs? Which is basically mandatory for a cam swap? :P
      Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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      • #18
        Re: 13.61 cam only

        If you've chosen a cam large enough to require valvetrain upgrades then they're not really stock heads are they? :P
        1994 Firebird 3.4<br />15.65 @ 86.8<br /><a href=\"http://www.funkz.net/firebird.htm\" target=\"_blank\">funkz.net/firebird</a><br /><a href=\"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/funkz/timeslips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Timeslips</a>

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        • #19
          Re: 13.61 cam only

          Heh, valvesprings are recommended for ANY cam swap.

          FINE, I'll just start saying I hae the 3rd fastest n/a car...I think thats what my time boils down to.
          Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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          • #20
            Re: 13.61 cam only

            Like I said, each person is going to have their own definition, so you should define it how YOU think it should be, you're the one that brought home the times! I'm not arguing with you over terminology or contradicting your statement. I was merely giving my opinion to refute those that think bolt-ons don't count as "cam-only". ;)
            1994 Firebird 3.4<br />15.65 @ 86.8<br /><a href=\"http://www.funkz.net/firebird.htm\" target=\"_blank\">funkz.net/firebird</a><br /><a href=\"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/funkz/timeslips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Timeslips</a>

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            • #21
              Re: 13.61 cam only

              I know.

              I dont care what anyone calls it, the only person running quicker than me without headwork and intake porting is littleG because his car weighs 400 pounds lighter than mine :)

              He's next on the list though.
              Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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              • #22
                Re: 13.61 cam only

                Kick @ss man! Congrats!

                Awesome D/A!

                Ohhhh, if you had some 26 inch tall tires it would have been a definate 13.5!

                Well, one of these days I'll pick up a cam and see what my shell of a car can do ;)

                Best of luck!

                And best of luck on the v6 event!

                And people..... no more bickering..... he did a good job!
                Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
                2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
                2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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                • #23
                  Re: 13.61 cam only

                  I have some 26" BFGs that are almost toast on salad shooters...might put them on for a run next weekend.
                  Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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                  • #24
                    Re: 13.61 cam only

                    FunkZ, you're arguing semantics. No one smart would just throw an aftermarket cam in their engine with no supporting valvetrain mods. The statement "cam only" includes the necessary valvetrain mods (which add no power by themselves) in order to run the cam safely. In my opinion it includes a tune for the added lift and duration as well. That's what I assumed, I got the necessary supporting mods, and my cam is more mild than his.

                    Congratulations, that's a monster time! :)

                    what's the lift on your cam? Is it a custom grind?

                    That really is an amazing time. No weight reduction?
                    Last edited by Camarorulz; 12-04-2006, 03:27 PM.
                    -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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                    • #25
                      Re: 13.61 cam only

                      I have minimal weight reduction, but its sort of negated by the fact that I have the W68 body-kit on a factory fat firebird. Only real weight reduction I have is no front swaybar, no backseat and an odyssey battery.

                      My car weighs in at 3400 without the bottle.

                      This is a 210/220 112lsa cam with .512 lift. It's abbotts n/a grind.
                      I will try to beat this time next weekend, because after that I'm putting in my 230/240 115lsa cam and will no longer be able to run n/a.
                      Last edited by FloydSummerOf68; 12-04-2006, 03:36 PM.
                      Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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                      • #26
                        Re: 13.61 cam only

                        Yeah, there's a lot of confusion with words. I hear guys, esp. LS1, saying runs low 13 to high 12 as a stock. What they failed to say is that they have mods to enhance how the engine runs.

                        Nevertheless, congrats!!

                        1998 Firebird . 1989 Firebird XS . 1986 Fiero GT

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                        • #27
                          Re: 13.61 cam only

                          Originally posted by Camarorulz
                          FunkZ, you're arguing semantics.
                          LOL, people are arguing because he has drag radials and injectors that it isn't "cam-only" and you single me out. That's funny.
                          1994 Firebird 3.4<br />15.65 @ 86.8<br /><a href=\"http://www.funkz.net/firebird.htm\" target=\"_blank\">funkz.net/firebird</a><br /><a href=\"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/funkz/timeslips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Timeslips</a>

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                          • #28
                            Re: 13.61 cam only

                            the only reason he has the injectors are because he has a powerdyne ready to install..... they in no way help make power, in fact the spray pattern of those large injectors are ment for boost not NA...... so he could have ran a tiny tiny bit faster

                            i would assume with a cam to run any kinda of record you would put in valve springs you do shoot a valve out the hood.. they add high rpm, thats about it, but any other person with cam can to that too..... thats fair

                            and for any kinda record you need griping tires..... have we forgot how to race?

                            the rear gear is the only thing "on the talbe" how even the other guys have those too..........

                            stall is to take advantage of the cam, witc hi think both other people have also
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                            7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                            11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                            • #29
                              Re: 13.61 cam only

                              The other guys were 5-speeds, but the had upgraded clutches...so thats sorta like a converter :P

                              And yes, both ben and seppo were running 3.73 gears.

                              Regardless, apparently using the term "cam-only" causes too much of an uproar here....so just take it as a 13.61 n/a run then...thats fine by me.
                              Shawn<br />2002 Silver W68 Firebird

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                              • #30
                                Re: 13.61 cam only

                                to much argueing.

                                congrats on the times!

                                current car- 95 Trans am- bolt ons, parked and collecting dust. why? because **** it

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