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    i've been looking into buying a 3rd gen w/ a 350 but most of them are auto's. i love my manual firebird i'd hate to give up that feeling but i want a big engine. i'm starting to think maybe its worth it to just get an auto and be happy i've got a 350 under my hood. also i've always wanted to be able to chirp tires shifting from first to second an auto wouldn't do that would it? (assuming i give it some mods)
    Red 94 Firebird 3.4L<br />-Flowmaster dual outlet exhaust system<br />-K&N cold air induction kit<br />-painted interior<br />-v8 when i get a real job

  • #2
    if you put in the right shift kit it would ;)

    let's time this to see f it's moved to the 3rd gen forum for some reason? :rolleyes: [img]tongue.gif[/img]

    If you plan to mod the 350 to more than 300hp, the 5sp will become a big paperweight unless worked up.
    1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
    2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

    former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
    94 comero 3.4

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    • #3
      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Chuck Burt:
      i've been looking into buying a 3rd gen w/ a 350 but most of them are auto's. i love my manual firebird i'd hate to give up that feeling but i want a big engine. i'm starting to think maybe its worth it to just get an auto and be happy i've got a 350 under my hood. also i've always wanted to be able to chirp tires shifting from first to second an auto wouldn't do that would it? (assuming i give it some mods)<hr></blockquote>

      All of them are autos.
      GM didn't make a production version of the 3rd gens with 350's and 5spds. The 5spd they used at the time couldn't handle the power of the 350. If you want a manual, why not get one with a good 350 and blown trans and swap in a T56 6spd or the like?

      Chris
      <b>2002 BSM TransAm WS.6 M6</b><br /><b>350rwhp, 365rwtq</b><br /><b>Stock:</b>13.455 @ 105.39 2.129 60\'<br /><b>Mod:</b>12.449 @ 113 1.832 60\'<br /><br /><b>2004 QSM GTO M6</b><br /><b>303rwhp, 329rwtq</b><br />Stock: 13.74 @ 102.14 2.1 60\'<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/silvertaws6\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/silvertaws6</a> <br /><br /><b>1984 Firebird S/E M5</b><br />2.8L

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      • #4
        Although it may get a better response in the lounge, I agree with Nate - off to Third Gen. --&gt;

        91firebird - feel free to move this back to the lounge if you feel it's appropriate. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
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        • #5
          actually, how about drivetrain. I'm sensing a little class warfare here :mad:


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          1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
          2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

          former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
          94 comero 3.4

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          • #6
            Don't worry about being able to chirp the tires from first to second, I only got a V6 and mine barks from first to second with the auto.

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            • #7
              I'd say stick with an auto, I really love banging gears when I get the chance but the peace of mind that a solid 4 700R4 would give me would outweigh the fun of a 5 or 6 speed. Autos are a lot easier to launch too if you're not too experienced racing a stick and even then you may mis-shift or something where an auto will never do that unless something REALLY bad is happening. I'd love to get my 3.1 to chirp the tires going to 2nd but I'm sure it'd require on heck of a shift kit.
              David
              1995 Nissan Hardbody King cab XE, 5-speed, 4 banger<p>Looking for the right Camaro...

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              • #8
                silvertaws6 is right. The manuals couldn't handle the 350 if dogged. Just stay with an auto 700R4 and put a shift kit in it like I did. It chirps my tires pretty well when it shifts from 1st to second gear when I'm going WOT in overdrive. But you dont want to do it all the time.
                2003 Nissan 350Z Touring Coupe, Daytona Blue, Frost leather interior, navigation, 18 inch wheels, M6, fully loaded, intake, crank pulley.<br /><br />Previous cars:<br />1991 Mustang (347)<br />2002 RS Camaro<br />1985 IROC-Z (305)<br />1994 Camaro convertible V6

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                • #9
                  Where can you find a shift kit for a 91 RS (v6/auto)
                  [*]<b>Car: </b>1991 CHEVY CAMARO RS<br />[*]<b>Engine: </b> 3.1lt (191ci) V6 - MPFI<br />[*]<b>Stereo: </b> Alpine 7995 H/U | Eclipse 21000 EQ | BOSS IQ 3000w Amp | Crossfire AB 400watt Amp | 3 AudioBahn 12\" D/V Subs | Planet Audio 4x6\'s & 6x9\'s

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                  • #10
                    well, anywhere transgo kits are sold...the part # is...TRG-700 from summit racing
                    i think i might go with this though... http://www.kdsperformance.com/transhifkitd.html
                    since my tranny's got more than a 100+k on it...i wouldnt think of doing anything to it until its rebuilt to handle a shift kit. but thats just me [img]smile.gif[/img]
                    1992 Camaro RS<br />Performance: K/N filter and custom CAI<br />Stereo/Electronics: 10\" Kicker Subwoofers, DEHP-4400 Pioneer Head Unit<br />Maintenance: New brake lines, New transmission mount<br />Upcoming: Flowmaster American Thunder Catback, Catco Catalytic Converter

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                    • #11
                      Mine is a B&M master rebuild from Summit, includes parts and instructions on how to make it shift harder, plus new seals, clutches, band, etc.

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                      • #12
                        I think the B&M shift kit is the better of the kits, as it reroutes the fluid instead of increasing the fluid pressure.
                        1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
                        2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

                        former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
                        94 comero 3.4

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                        • #13
                          Trans-go is the only way to go [img]smile.gif[/img]


                          I allways liked 5 speed third gens, a knew a guy who had a 350 laying down 300ish rwhp and a 5 speed converstion and that thing was a BLAST to ride in :eek: :D [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
                          Black 96 Z/28, A4, T-tops, tint, 2.73 LSD, Kenwood.<br /><br />Previous Camaro: Bright white 86 Camaro, MPI 2.8 A4 3.42, tint, Z-28 wheels, a few goodies.

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                          • #14
                            Hey, Mike here, also I'm a Pro at this but if i'm wrong feel free to currect me, but auto is better cause its a quick shift (Best w/ Rachet) also stick u have to clutch threw a gear or two to gt up in speed and u'll lose like maybe umm .05 seconds everytime u do it??
                            1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS in Teal<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/whydrivestock\" target=\"_blank\">www.cardomain.com/id/whydrivestock</a>

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