ok, wtf. has anyone seen those G5's driving around yet? its a cobalt in pontiac trim! all thats changed is some fascia and interior panels... huh... correct me if i'm wrong... but doesnt that sound like how the firebird was??? everyone says GM doesnt want its brands to compete, well then WTF? the G5 and cobalt are the same, the solstice and sky are the same, why not a firebird?! :rant: my blood pressure has to be around 500 right now GRRRRRRRRR!!!!
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GM is making another stupid decision in only bringing back the Camaro. The Firebird has a ledgendary history, and they should introduce it alongside. As far as this retro concept, I have no clue where it's going to lead.
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GM has been doing this for some time. Honestly, the TA is a turd other than the 98+ TA which was the only really appealing TA because of its looks.
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^^^ uh, oh... now you done did it ^^^ :eek:2004 CE Corvette 10.86@132mph
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Re-badging has been going on forever. It has its pros and cons, but its nothing to be suprised at.
And Blldogg, Im afraid you may have opened Pandoras Box...........
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I can't help that I think it was ugly as ****!
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um, this is nothing new, camaro/firebird, sunfire/cavalier, silverado/sierra, s-10/sonoma,
ford does it too, crown vic/grand marquies/lincoln towncar, f150/mark LT....
i dont see why you are so surprised, all major car companies rebadgeRedlineVSix
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i'm not SURPRISED... i;m pissed that people were saying that they wont make the firebird cuz of competition b/w brands and i actually bought into it :rant:2000 3.8L Camaro A4 Pewter Y87<br />K&N Filter, SLP Ram Air kit, Eibach Pro Kit, Flowmaster 80 series, Silverstars, NGK plugs and MSD Super Conductor Wires, Electric Water Pump
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I guess he's suprized after GM said they weren't going to do that anymore... plus he's sad that the Fireturd won't be making a comeback ;)
Originally posted by SSMOWS6i mean, you can always fly wes out there and since he's a tool sometimes, fashion him into a plow for the maro
Still... 18-1 > 1 and done
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Originally posted by BLLDOGGGM has been doing this for some time. Honestly, the TA is a turd other than the 98+ TA which was the only really appealing TA because of its looks.
same could be said for your car. its a concord in disguise.
lt1 body style fbody > ls1 style.
if i ever buy a ls1 i will do a lt1 front end swap.
current car- 95 Trans am- bolt ons, parked and collecting dust. why? because **** it
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ahhhhh, typical comero owner whinning/bytching.
I guess you should feel betrayed that chebby is a poor mans brand, and Pontiac was to Oakland what Plymouth was to Chrysler1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
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I am a typical comero owner cause I am bored by factory camaro and turn off from the new camaro concept.
Typical chebby comero owner I am. :D
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HAHA, if Chevy is a poor man's brand, is Pontiac a "rich man's" brand? Give me a break. What more do you get with an equivalent Pontiac? A few more base options? That just runs up the price...I wouldn't have an f-body if the Camaro didn't come very base. Who needs power windows and a bunch of steering wheel controls? My Malibu was optioned out compared to the 'Maro, but I would take the 'Maro over it any day.
BLLDOGG, you just had to do it. Now I have to argue. ;)
The 98+ TAs were nice, but most TAs and Firebirds were just rebadged Camaros. If you compare a Camaro and a Trans AM of equal price, you get the same thing. GM is making a smart move by ditching the re-badging crap with this new car.
I'm not trashing Firebirds, but they're no better than Camaros as you guys that claim Pontiac is the "luxury" brand would have everyone think.Last edited by Camarorulz; 09-14-2006, 04:24 PM.-Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.
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