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  • #16
    Re: several Head questions

    Originally posted by 97rs4life View Post
    even if from abbott the ones from zzp were breaking on people too. It wasn't just one bad batch. Search the grand prix forums for some of the stories ;)
    I know but ZZP changed theirs along with Intense, Abbott still using SI valves with 130lB springs in their heads. Even with them breaking. The stock ones will hold up better than SI valves. Manely is the best choice for turbo valves.
    08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
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    • #17
      Re: several Head questions

      Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
      But, would there be any disadvantage or reprocussions of running a lift that big?
      You may have more lift than the motor can use, cause a stock head is only gonna flow so much. It's kinda like putting in a 3" exhaust but still retaining the 2.25" s pipe. Even though you have a lot of lift it will still be limited by the stock head unless they are P&P, you have a stroker kit and so on...
      Get what i mean? It's kinda hard for me to put into words.
      Daily: '02 Black Yukon Denali
      Toy: '06 Torrid Red GTO
      Gone: Powerdyned '02 Pewter Camaro
      Gone: '07 Charcoal Yamaha R6
      Gone: Ex-wife, lol

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      • #18
        Re: several Head questions

        Originally posted by Pewter02Camaro View Post
        You may have more lift than the motor can use, cause a stock head is only gonna flow so much. It's kinda like putting in a 3" exhaust but still retaining the 2.25" s pipe. Even though you have a lot of lift it will still be limited by the stock head unless they are P&P, you have a stroker kit and so on...
        Get what i mean? It's kinda hard for me to put into words.
        I completely understand what you mean...my heads are going to be P&P with a most likely 1.84 intake valve and a 1.55 or 1.57 exhaust valve (I'm still deciding)...my compression is probably going to be 9:9:1 or 9:8:1...not sure how much I want to take off the head, as I have been told they get really weak and prone to headgasket failure if you mill off the .020 off them...

        I just dont know the limits of a worked head like that...I know the stock head, that lift would be too much...but I dont know about once it has this kind of work done...Im not going with a stroker kit at the moment...too much $$$

        2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
        1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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        • #19
          Re: several Head questions

          I have my heads at my machine shop right now. I have a set with mild work done and i was planning on running .317 lift with a 1.7:1 rocker which puts me at .5389 lift total. At tyhat point you get retainer to valve seal interferance. My machinest and i decided to mill the gudes down so that when its all said and done with the seals i could accomidate up to .550 total lift. I am trying to get all the numbers to add to the sticky threads. the stock selas are pretty tall so you may have to go with a race seal. one time use but the allow for extra lift.
          Daily: '02 Black Yukon Denali
          Toy: '06 Torrid Red GTO
          Gone: Powerdyned '02 Pewter Camaro
          Gone: '07 Charcoal Yamaha R6
          Gone: Ex-wife, lol

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          • #20
            Re: several Head questions

            Originally posted by Pewter02Camaro View Post
            I have my heads at my machine shop right now. I have a set with mild work done and i was planning on running .317 lift with a 1.7:1 rocker which puts me at .5389 lift total. At tyhat point you get retainer to valve seal interferance. My machinest and i decided to mill the gudes down so that when its all said and done with the seals i could accomidate up to .550 total lift. I am trying to get all the numbers to add to the sticky threads. the stock selas are pretty tall so you may have to go with a race seal. one time use but the allow for extra lift.
            I daily drive the car 25,000 km a year, and in all weather conditions...can't be rebuilding the car every day lol...

            Does anyone know what LS1 rockers are stock?...maybe I might just drill and tap the heads to use a 3/8th stud now, but run a stock ls1 rocker (if they are still 1.6) and upgrade in the future...

            2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
            1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


            Project Cars | How To Guides | Scratch Repair | Synthetic Oil

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            • #21
              Re: several Head questions

              Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
              I daily drive the car 25,000 km a year, and in all weather conditions...can't be rebuilding the car every day lol...
              When i said one time use i meant that if you take them off they are garbage. You would have to replace them. Basic valve seals you can take off and put back on if you had too. Race ones are a very tight fit and will tear if you try to remove them.
              Daily: '02 Black Yukon Denali
              Toy: '06 Torrid Red GTO
              Gone: Powerdyned '02 Pewter Camaro
              Gone: '07 Charcoal Yamaha R6
              Gone: Ex-wife, lol

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