Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

[camarov696]

Ive decided on the abbott NA racing cam to go along with N20. Was also considering their stage 1 heads. My question is will this impact the car as a daily driver?

Plans for car:
rebuilt engine(already have the engine just need to rip it apart)
3:42 posi rear(also already have it)
pacesetter headers
magnaflow catback with exhaust cutout after CAT.
vette servo and thinking about a shift kit.
stall converter probably 3000 stall
75hp-125 hp wet shot(already have it).
walboro pump and GTP injectors with FPSS

thanks for any advice. Im open to opinions!

[LETZRIDE]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

I have that cam as well as the mods in my sig, full bolt on etc, etc...I get better gas milage now with the cam, then I did without it. I picked up 70 more Kilometers to a tank of gas....

[camarov696]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

I have that cam as well as the mods in my sig, full bolt on etc, etc...I get better gas milage now with the cam, then I did without it. I picked up 70 more Kilometers to a tank of gas....

thanks for the reply.. thats what im aiming for. you got a pretty good 1/4 mile time too.

[LETZRIDE]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

thanks...it could be alot better though lol...Im working on it

[97rs4life]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

the cam loves the nitrous ;)

[camarov696]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

the cam loves the nitrous ;)

yea thats what ive been reading. so i figured i couldnt go wrong with stage 1 heads. id love to hit about 360-380 whp with the help of N20. that might be a little out of reach with my setup but hey gotta have a goal right? lol

[97rs4life]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

yea you will need stage 3 heads and more work to hit those numbers unless you like using huge shots of nitrous, but you are on your way. :)

[Choppers]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

If you really want to achieve those numbers. You are going to spend just as much if not more and you could have put a turbo on and achieve better number than a cam car. Also look into the cost of swapping a ls1 in. Those abbott stage 3 heads I believe are $1699 plus the cam plus all the extra little things you will need will put you very close to the cost of a ls1 swap if you did the work yourself.

[97rs4life]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

If you really want to achieve those numbers. You are going to spend just as much if not more and you could have put a turbo on and achieve better number than a cam car. Also look into the cost of swapping a ls1 in. Those abbott stage 3 heads I believe are $1699 plus the cam plus all the extra little things you will need will put you very close to the cost of a ls1 swap if you did the work yourself.

an ls1 swap wouldn't come close to the cost of a heads/cam/nitrous car. c'mon now. Those numbers are not hard to hit with the nitrous on these cars

[Choppers]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

yea but honestly if i was going to spend all that money on a car at once I would rather put my money in a ls1 for a few reasons. 1= more power and leads to alot more power to gain in the end. 2= ls1's can have more abuse power than a 3.8 ever can. Not saying these aren't great motors but after its all said and done he could have swapped that in and been close to the same amount of power as heads, cam, nitrous swap 3.8 as with just the ls1 motor and trans at have alot more potential later on to be gained. I was just throwing that option out there not trying to discourage him.

[BallerMaro13]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

that rationale pretty much embraces the whole "why bother modding a v6?" thinking. sure, an ls1 will respond better to mods, but real power can be made in any application. and as far as abuse, our 3.8's can take anything you dish at them really, aside from our weak t5's of course. i plan on completely building my 3.8 before i start digging into the ls1, and i have no doubt serious power is attainable with the right structure, but penny pinching will get nowhere fast.

if you want budget build power, strip that puppy down for the track and run bolt-ons with a generous shot of nitrous and you're in ls1 territory and then some ---- at a fraction of the cost of a swap.

[camarov696]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

yea but honestly if i was going to spend all that money on a car at once I would rather put my money in a ls1 for a few reasons. 1= more power and leads to alot more power to gain in the end. 2= ls1's can have more abuse power than a 3.8 ever can. Not saying these aren't great motors but after its all said and done he could have swapped that in and been close to the same amount of power as heads, cam, nitrous swap 3.8 as with just the ls1 motor and trans at have alot more potential later on to be gained. I was just throwing that option out there not trying to discourage him.

i appreciate the info. an ls1 would be great but out of my budget. i pretty much own everything for my build already, just need to get some time to rebuild the engine. but my "realistic goal" is is 360-380 whp. but hell if i hit around 320-350 id be happy as sh*t lol. with a 125 hp shot of N20 i think thats atainable right?

plus... stock ls1-300ish hp give or take the conditions. A modded V-6 making 350ish hp that can take on the ls1 id be happy to own

[Choppers]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

Ok since you already have most of the v6 build then heck yea go ahead with it. I think your goals are definately obtainable via a good tune. The nitrous will put you at the goal or pretty close to it. :rock:

[Watazz]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

yea but honestly if i was going to spend all that money on a car at once I would rather put my money in a ls1 for a few reasons. 1= more power and leads to alot more power to gain in the end. 2= ls1's can have more abuse power than a 3.8 ever can. Not saying these aren't great motors but after its all said and done he could have swapped that in and been close to the same amount of power as heads, cam, nitrous swap 3.8 as with just the ls1 motor and trans at have alot more potential later on to be gained. I was just throwing that option out there not trying to discourage him.

An LS1 swap is ALOT of money. And im prety sure the 3.8 can take a crap load more punishment than an LS1 considering our heads are cast iron vs the aluminum ls1 heads. And our compression is alot lower.

[camarov696]

Re: Abbott cam and stage 1 heads.

Ok since you already have most of the v6 build then heck yea go ahead with it. I think your goals are definately obtainable via a good tune. The nitrous will put you at the goal or pretty close to it. :rock:

yea the most nitrous im comfortable with for now is 120-125 shot. but im putting all new pistons and better rings and bearings. so maybe a one time deal with a 150 shot might be in order depending on how my tune goes when all is said and done. the first time im hitting the N20 will be on the dyno though with a 75 shot and then working my way up, not about to do all this work just to mess it up in a few seconds lol.