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  • #46
    Re: Blew the motor

    Originally posted by cam98aro View Post
    nah, you are gonna need a new head gasket, and head bolts.
    I got arp head studs...maybe I'll just look into felpro gaskets this time...MLS are a little expensive...I'll see what I can juggle...

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    • #47
      Re: Blew the motor

      Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
      I got arp head studs...maybe I'll just look into felpro gaskets this time...MLS are a little expensive...I'll see what I can juggle...
      theres nothin wrong with felpro, i have been running some felpro stock replacement head gaskets on a 12:1 compression engine for some time now..

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      • #48
        Re: Blew the motor

        Fel Pro's are good, I put those in a car I had several years ago and they worked well.
        2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

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        • #49
          Re: Blew the motor

          ya, my only thinking is, is 4compression points (with my milled heads) really worth going to a .045 gasket over a .062 gasket for 110$ more? like, is it really going to be that much of a difference? or am I looking at maybe 10hp at the crank if Im lucky...

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          1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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          • #50
            Re: Blew the motor

            Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
            ya, my only thinking is, is 4compression points (with my milled heads) really worth going to a .045 gasket over a .062 gasket for 110$ more? like, is it really going to be that much of a difference? or am I looking at maybe 10hp at the crank if Im lucky...
            Doubtful. Save the money and go Fel-Pro.

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            • #51
              Re: Blew the motor

              couple more questions...Im stuck at the transmission...How do I get to the flex plate bolts (big and small ones)...do I need to rotate the driveshaft? (I was thinking I did, but I dont have a second set of jackstands in the meantime.

              Also, do those metal side brackets that bolt into the inspection cover Need to go back on?? I got the drivers side off, but the SOB took me over an hour... I'm thinking along the lines of some weight savings...

              2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
              1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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              • #52
                Re: Blew the motor

                Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
                couple more questions...Im stuck at the transmission...How do I get to the flex plate bolts (big and small ones)...do I need to rotate the driveshaft? (I was thinking I did, but I dont have a second set of jackstands in the meantime.

                Also, do those metal side brackets that bolt into the inspection cover Need to go back on?? I got the drivers side off, but the SOB took me over an hour... I'm thinking along the lines of some weight savings...
                Get a 15/16th wrench or socket and then turn the motor.

                I run Fel Pro's in my car with ARP's. Anything over 500whp I would go to MLS gaskets but they're fine for your purposes. I have re-used MLS gaskets before, but copper sprayed the crap out of them.

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                • #53
                  Re: Blew the motor

                  Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
                  couple more questions...Im stuck at the transmission...How do I get to the flex plate bolts (big and small ones)...do I need to rotate the driveshaft? (I was thinking I did, but I dont have a second set of jackstands in the meantime.

                  Also, do those metal side brackets that bolt into the inspection cover Need to go back on?? I got the drivers side off, but the SOB took me over an hour... I'm thinking along the lines of some weight savings...
                  the driveshaft should be off at this point.

                  you dont take the flexplate off until you have removed the transmission/torque converter

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                  • #54
                    Re: Blew the motor

                    why should I be removing the driveshaft? The transmission is going to be staying in the car?

                    2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
                    1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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                    • #55
                      Re: Blew the motor

                      Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
                      why should I be removing the driveshaft? The transmission is going to be staying in the car?
                      i thought you were trying to remove your flexplate.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Blew the motor

                        well first I am removing the torque converter so that I can get to the tiny bolts for the flexplate...but the driveshaft is on the other end of the transmission? Why would it need to come off?

                        2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
                        1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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                        • #57
                          Re: Blew the motor

                          something I just thought about...Can I get the cam and front pulley off of the engine while it is out of the car? I know while its in the car I had to jam the flywheel to get that crank bolt off and such...how Would I stop that all from spinning when I go to pull the bolt off with the motor out of the car???

                          2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
                          1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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                          • #58
                            Re: Blew the motor

                            If you have an impact wrench it's probably easy. It may be a good idea to loosen the pulley bolt before pulling the engine.
                            2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

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                            • #59
                              Re: Blew the motor

                              Originally posted by LETZRIDE View Post
                              something I just thought about...Can I get the cam and front pulley off of the engine while it is out of the car? I know while its in the car I had to jam the flywheel to get that crank bolt off and such...how Would I stop that all from spinning when I go to pull the bolt off with the motor out of the car???
                              just have someone hold the flexplate with a rag to get the balancer off, and after you have the engine out get a piece of wood and put it in the block so the crank cant turn to loosen the flexplate bolts

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                              • #60
                                Re: Blew the motor

                                do you mean take the oil pan off and put a block of wood up there to block the crank? Would that harm the crank at all? (dont care about the old block, but the new motor matters)

                                2002 SOM Z28 Camaro - 12.9 @ 104 mph
                                1996 3800 Camaro - 13.43 @ 100.77 mph


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