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    i've got a 2001 camaro with a stock motor. and a buick grand national turbo. .63 exhaust a/r and .60 compressor.

    from what i read it sounds like turbo cams, hardly change the the intake duration but change the exhaust duration quite a bit. they also try to remove the overlap. but that doesn't really pertain.

    i was looking at some rocker arms, the intake was 1.9 and the exhaust was either 1.7 or 1.8.
    would it be beneficial to my setup to get those, but use the 1.9 on the exhaust and the 1.7(8) on the intake.?

  • #2
    Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

    Since you have stock cam 1.9 rockers would help alot, I run 1.7 pro mags with my VS cam and they work very well.
    08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
    96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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    • #3
      Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

      my real question is should i install them "backwards" 1.9 intake and 1.7 exhaust because its a turbo application.

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      • #4
        Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

        No. you should look at prj performance or theres a australian company doing taller and wider covers.

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        • #5
          Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

          With stock cam I would run 1.9 all around.
          08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
          96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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          • #6
            Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

            Your trying to mimic a Turbo cam with the rockers on your stock cam? If so Good Idea but I am not sure if its been done. You can try it and let us know how it went!

            My thought is if you want a turbo cam then get a turbo cam!
            Jeff ..
            1998 Firebird.. Built 3.8 with a 125 shot.. 370rwhp,415rwtq.. stock tune!! sold

            2002 WS6 T/A.. Bolt ins..448rwhp
            2009 G8 GT.. Vararam intake, GXP axleback
            1998 Corvette.. Vararam intake, Ti axleback
            http://www.fquick.com/slow-v6

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            • #7
              Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

              why would i need taller/wider valve covers?
              i'm going to use them "backwards" because i already have the parts.
              yeah basically just mimmicking the turbo cam minus the lsa change. i wasn't really looking for a cam. i just found a good deal on the rocker arms, springs etc. and wanted to run the non traditional install by you guys. it's going to be a little while. can't seem to make time for my poor car.

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              • #8
                Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

                Originally posted by thebeewantsboost View Post
                why would i need taller/wider valve covers?
                i'm going to use them "backwards" because i already have the parts.
                yeah basically just mimmicking the turbo cam minus the lsa change. i wasn't really looking for a cam. i just found a good deal on the rocker arms, springs etc. and wanted to run the non traditional install by you guys. it's going to be a little while. can't seem to make time for my poor car.
                Like I said, good idea.

                Only thing envolved with bigger rockers in a bigger lift I think. Dont think rockers effect the duration but I could be wrong. So you could mimic the lift of a turbo cam but might not be able to effect the duration.


                I would do a search over on LS1tech and see if it has been done on LS1/LT1 motors.
                Jeff ..
                1998 Firebird.. Built 3.8 with a 125 shot.. 370rwhp,415rwtq.. stock tune!! sold

                2002 WS6 T/A.. Bolt ins..448rwhp
                2009 G8 GT.. Vararam intake, GXP axleback
                1998 Corvette.. Vararam intake, Ti axleback
                http://www.fquick.com/slow-v6

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                • #9
                  Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

                  man, there are some sick cars on that site. especially turbo setups. i didn't find anything that pertained to this topic but i did make a post.

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                  • #10
                    Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

                    Changing rocker ratio does change duration and lift both.
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                    • #11
                      Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

                      Originally posted by bigbrian442 View Post
                      Changing rocker ratio does change duration and lift both.
                      Exactly, it multiplies the lift by the ratio number, and similarly effects the duration.
                      Team NoVa

                      2000 Firebird- Intake, Pacesetters, !cat, full 2.5 to flowcrapster, 1.9 rockers, LS6 springs and Intense modded retainers, WS6 speedlines, T/A bumpers and hatch, 5 spd swapped, SOON TO BE nitrous'd and cammed.

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                      • #12
                        Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

                        I think your thread on tech got deleted!

                        So could you use a bigger rocker to open up the exhaust longer and keep the intake stock size?
                        Jeff ..
                        1998 Firebird.. Built 3.8 with a 125 shot.. 370rwhp,415rwtq.. stock tune!! sold

                        2002 WS6 T/A.. Bolt ins..448rwhp
                        2009 G8 GT.. Vararam intake, GXP axleback
                        1998 Corvette.. Vararam intake, Ti axleback
                        http://www.fquick.com/slow-v6

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                        • #13
                          Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

                          Originally posted by 1998silverbird View Post
                          I think your thread on tech got deleted!

                          So could you use a bigger rocker to open up the exhaust longer and keep the intake stock size?
                          Yes, give me a bit and I will find where zzp?? did some testing on split rockers for our engines.
                          Team NoVa

                          2000 Firebird- Intake, Pacesetters, !cat, full 2.5 to flowcrapster, 1.9 rockers, LS6 springs and Intense modded retainers, WS6 speedlines, T/A bumpers and hatch, 5 spd swapped, SOON TO BE nitrous'd and cammed.

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                          • #14
                            Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

                            found it. https://www.easyperformance.com/supp...er-arm-testing


                            http://shop.zzperformance.com/store/...o-Rockers.aspx

                            The rockers are produced with different ratios.
                            Team NoVa

                            2000 Firebird- Intake, Pacesetters, !cat, full 2.5 to flowcrapster, 1.9 rockers, LS6 springs and Intense modded retainers, WS6 speedlines, T/A bumpers and hatch, 5 spd swapped, SOON TO BE nitrous'd and cammed.

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                            • #15
                              Re: higher ratio rocker arms in turbo application

                              the rocker arms i have are basically an older version of those...
                              i'm pretty sure it doesn't effect duration... well... it sort of does.... but not really.... the cam doesn't change. so the valve opens at the same time... however.... the vamp rate is much steeper and therefore quicker... so you do have more.. "useable" duration.
                              Last edited by thebeewantsboost; 09-26-2012, 02:23 PM.

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