Need Some Insight

[rwferguson43119]

First I wanted to say hello to everyone in the forum, I am new and this is my very first post. I wanted to get some insight from you guys on my build that i am starting to do. Any suggestions or advice would be great. So here's what i plan on doing:

Stock block bored .020 over.
Diamond Racing Forged pistons 9.5:1 compression ratio with ceramic thermal coating.
L32 Pawdered metal connecting rods with ceramic thermal coating.
Stock crank.
Clevite77 TriMetal Main Bearing set
Clevite77 TriMetal Rod Bearing set
Clevite77 TriMetal Cam Bearing set
ARP Connecting Rod Bolts
ARP Main Studs
ARP Head Bolts
Abbott Racing Stage 3 Heads
Abbott Racing Ported Upper & Lower Intake Manifold
Cometic Multi-Layered Steel Head Gaskets
Comp 26918 Beehive Valve Springs, 130lbs @ 1.800" Seat Pressure
Comp 772-12 Titanium Valve Spring Retainers
Comp Hi-Tech Pushrods
Comp 875-12 OE-R Racing Hydraulic Roller Lifters
Rollmaster Double Roller Timing Chain
Venom 845-122 MAF
Meziere Electric Water Pump
Be Cool 60246 Aluminum Radiator
ATI Performance Harmonic Balancers
Granateli 255lbs Fuel Pump
46lbs Fuel Injector
Cam's are still up in the air need help with them here are the options
Xtreme Energy 255 HR12 Cam
Xtreme Energy 246 HR10 Cam
Or any suggestions you guys might have

Flowmaster 17358 Cat Back Exhaust
Need help finding a high flow cat

either a STS turbo kit or 175 wet shot.

Drivetrain:

Centerforce DF504076 Dual Friction Clutch
Alloy USA 17136 Rear Axle Shafts
Posi Rear end

Suspension:

Eibach 3870.240
Hatchkis 2204 Sway Bar Kit
Hotchkis 2006R F-Body Strut Tower Brace
SLP 70801 Subframe Connectors
BMR Suspension K-Member KM001R
Slotted & Cross Drilled Rotors (Front & Rear)

Things that I have already done to the car:

3.73 Gear Ratio, Energy Suspension Bushings Front and Rear, Lakewood Traction Bars, K&N CAI, Helix Throttle Body Spacer, Energy Suspension Solid Motor Mounts, Energy Suspension Solid Transmission Mount, KYB Front & Rear Shocks/Struts, MSD Coil Packs and Wires, Pacesetter Headers, Flowmaster Muffler, Hurst Shifter W/ NOS button, Hypertuned. I had it dyno'd @ 191 HP / 223 Trq on a mustang dyno. This is on the stock clutch with 123k on it, needs to be changed. This dyno pulled didnt include my headers at the time.



If you have anything else that i might have missed please post and let me know, thanks in advance.

[bigbrian442]

Re: Need Some Insight

Pointless with a T 5.

[rwferguson43119]

Re: Need Some Insight

Pointless with a T 5.

Why's that?

[bigbrian442]

Re: Need Some Insight

It will break...

[PalmHarbor]

Re: Need Some Insight

For that kind of investment of parts and labor, you could buy a 2013 Camaro new,
with a warranty. U should consider what U have after U are done. It will ad little
to the value as it will be considered against its age and what else is available and
newer.

[WarShrike]

Re: Need Some Insight

[Sarcasm]
Why buy a new camaro since 'they'll do nothing but depreciate and leave you with a car payment for up to 60 months? Why buy a car to begin with? Why mod cars at all since it doesn't help resale value?

Just get a bicycle, they hold their value rather well when properly maintained.
[/Sarcasm]

With that aside...

The T-5 will be on borrowed time unless you take some protective measures for it. One way is to get the torque arm off the trans tailhousing by using a tunnel mounted torque arm. Looking at at least $450 or so for that. Then you'll also want to have it refreshed or given a performance build with updated internals from somebody like GeForce, etc. etc.

There's a few guys on another board that have managed to do rather well with drag racing their T5's but it comes down to a lot of thought and some money on the table initially to preserve it. One of these guys being a stock eliminator racer so he isn't going to be gentle on the strip.

You will need to determine if you are in fact going turbocharged or if you are going nitrous. 9.5:1 is actually higher compression than stock, not fun for a turbo and you'll need to find the right camshaft for your power adder. A good company can design the cam to work as a package with your ported intake/heads and whatever you use. Some cam designs can differ depending on the turbocharger you use as well.

I really wouldn't recommend a flowmaster either, but that comes down to personal taste. I'd say run a large 3" turbo muffler off summit and an electric cutout for when you want to get rowdy. If you go nitrous, get those longtube headers if you can find them on the market still.

I wouldn't bore the engine over unless you absolutely needed it. You have issues later and need a rebuild, you won't have much if any meat left to bore/hone. When using ARP rod bolts and main studs, machine work will be needed to clear the rod bolts and the main studs have more clamping power, you'll need to have the mains align bored to make sure everything is good down the road.

[mousemonster1232]

I'd say run a large 3" turbo muffler off summit and an electric cutout for when you want to get rowdy.

Not to be stealing a thread or anything, I just find this interesting. My question would be, what brand of electric cutout?

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[WarShrike]

Re: Need Some Insight

I got one off eBay. It is OK. Came with the pipe cutout flange as well for a low price. Can't remember the company though.

[1998silverbird]

Re: Need Some Insight

build what you want to build. It is very unique to see a fast V6 F-body.

Either build a T5 ( G-force) or go Auto with a nice stall.. Also might consider a 12 bolt rear instead of trying to use a 10 bolt.. They tend not to like power all to much.

Dont forget tune! A high flow cat I would suggest Catco 3inch and do the Pipe mod to it!!

[rwferguson43119]

Re: Need Some Insight

Sorry guys had to work and school before work, havent had alot of time to check back. But these ideas are great. I think i want to stick with the stick and not an auto but will check into the T5 (G-Force). Some people have different ideas of where people should spend there money at like a new camaro or a Z28. I just want to be different, i dont plan on selling the car or worried about the value of it. I just want something nice, and something i have built myself. The way it looks i have a grand total to spend of 9,500.00 within the next sixs months. I didn't really look into the rear end to much lol that was an over site. But i do agree with getting a 12 bolt rear, and i think i am going to keep the stock bore but turbo charge it. Just in case something happens i would like to have the option to rebuild the motor compared to buying a new one. Anyone know of a good guy in Central Ohio to tune the 3.8L? Honestly with the ideas i had i hope to be around 350hp-400hp but will see what happens. Cut outs is in excellent idea, i heard one on youtube but didnt sound that great, it must be a thing where i would have to be there to hear what it sounds like. I have spoke with Abbot Racing about the heads and cams alrdy, i am hoping to at least get the top end of the motor done in about 3 weeks, once i get the parts. I also noticed that there was a mods page 1998 silverbird i was actually looking at getting the A high flow cat I would suggest Catco 3inch. This might be a stupid question but did the Z28 come with a 10 bolt or a 12 bolt rear end? O yea and the labor i would do myself of course its cheaper that way :)

[ssms5411]

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Its a 10 bolt, if upgading I would look into a 9".

[1998silverbird]

Re: Need Some Insight

Bore the motor out. If your gonna build it then get every bit you can out of it! If something breaks then just get another 200.00 3.8 and start over if you want. You can find these motors everywere now.