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    I found out at first it would be possible but not very streetable. (Large Lopey Cam, ect ect..) Question is this... If I did this and mated it to a Six Speed with my 3.42 rear, would it be more streetable?

    Or wait, will the RPMS be LOWER than it needs to be?
    1997 Camaro RS W/T-Tops<br />All Stock / 200 HP

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    it doesnt have anything to do with your gear ratios, and the price for a 6-speed swap would be enormous since it'd have to be custom swapped. A lot of manual guys have looked into it, but there isn't a company that makes a conversion kit to adapt it to our cars.

    The reason it's going to be unstreetable will be probably due to the large cam. It's going to lope and try to stall at stoplights. The car will shake from the chop in the lope, and you're going to have a hard time running accessories(a/c, etc); to make that kind of power, you're idle will be incredibly erratic as the car tries to stay on while not in the upper rpms.
    AIM: Alientr8tr<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/583450\" target=\"_blank\">1998 Camaro 3.8L</a><br />Flowmaster 80-series, !FRA, Eibach Springs, KYB AGX, SLP sway bars, 3.42/LSD, Wings West kit, Z06 Motorsports, Silverstone Metallic paint<br /><a href=\"http://www.shift5.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Shift 5</a> - My Band

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    • #3
      matt from tsp put down 240 to the wheels na which would be about 290 to the crank...put a 75 shot on top of that and you'd be pushing 350 to the crank at least. I dont think that combo would be horrible as far as streetability...ive driven in heads/cam v6's and as long as its got a decent tune and the cam isnt too too large they cope just fine especially with decent gears.
      00 GTP<br />98 Camaro v6<br />See, told ya I\'d be rockin another 4th gen :D<br />V6 & V8 tuning available at <a href=\"http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/\" target=\"_blank\">http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/</a>

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      • #4
        if u'r looking for 350 hp. save all the money your gonna put towards those mods.. keep your engine stock and buy a turbo kit with a custom tune...

        very streetable. durr
        96 Camaro M5. Dark metallic gree (?dont know the offical color name)<br />Home made Intake :: Headers, 3inch headers back to Flowmaster muffler :: spec stage 3 clutch Now installed, waiting for 3.42\'s and LSD next month<br /><a href=\"http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/RiceEatingCamaro/?action=view&current=newcar.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">My Car</a> <br /><br />Totalled Car.<br /><a href=\"http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/k/sk8er305/\" target=\"_blank\">96 CamaroRS</a>

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        • #5
          appearently everyone is overlooking the fact that he said n/a. you'll need a massive cam, P&P everything and a stroker kit along with custom made longtube headers and all the bolt ons.
          \'99 SSM Camaro V6 M5<br />(mod list on cardomain site; too long to list here)<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/v6cam99\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/v6cam99</a>

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          • #6
            Yeah, I was going to swear I saw NA in the title when I responded earlier. If you want 350 hp at the fly, that's 297rwhp assuming 15% drivetrain loss. You're going to need to spend a lot of money for the stroker, P&P mods, and all the other custom mods. In the end it would be a lot more reliable and streetable if you choose to go with a blower or turbo. A powerdyne w/an intercooler would probably come quite close to that, and cost about the same. When you start pushing numbers like that all motor (almost doubling factory output) you're sacraficing a lot of the driveability with the car. If you want this to be easily streetable, you may want to think twice about it; as a track only car though, I could see if being pretty feasible.
            AIM: Alientr8tr<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/583450\" target=\"_blank\">1998 Camaro 3.8L</a><br />Flowmaster 80-series, !FRA, Eibach Springs, KYB AGX, SLP sway bars, 3.42/LSD, Wings West kit, Z06 Motorsports, Silverstone Metallic paint<br /><a href=\"http://www.shift5.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Shift 5</a> - My Band

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            • #7
              yea.. i just mentioned FI because.. uhh.. 350 na will cost a lot of money.. and for all the money to be dished out.. u prolly wont even be able handle it on the street. unless u got a never ending piggy bank go for it.
              96 Camaro M5. Dark metallic gree (?dont know the offical color name)<br />Home made Intake :: Headers, 3inch headers back to Flowmaster muffler :: spec stage 3 clutch Now installed, waiting for 3.42\'s and LSD next month<br /><a href=\"http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/RiceEatingCamaro/?action=view&current=newcar.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">My Car</a> <br /><br />Totalled Car.<br /><a href=\"http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/k/sk8er305/\" target=\"_blank\">96 CamaroRS</a>

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              • #8
                If i won the lottery I'd do it. Have alot more than 350hp too :-D
                \'99 SSM Camaro V6 M5<br />(mod list on cardomain site; too long to list here)<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/v6cam99\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/v6cam99</a>

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                • #9
                  I'm surprise nobody has mention "V8". If I were you and was planing on a 350hp car, I would do it right from the start by saving that money and buying a V8. You will spend the same money, and maybe more, trying to make your car push 350hp. I, on the other side, am glad I realized that just in time before going crazy and trying to make a race car out of my car. Now I'm just trying to make my car looks nice and in a future (hopefully not too far from now) I'll be getting a V8. (Maybe the new Camaro, if it's ever build)
                  Just my opinion.
                  Good luck.
                  2002 Arctic White Firebird W68<br />Installed: FTRA, Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, K&N Filter, Transgo Shift Kit, Corvette Servo, 160º Thermostat.<br />Appearance: Potenzas RE750 245\'s, 3M Tint 20% All Around, Clear Corners.<br />FOR SALE: HPP3

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                  • #10
                    You want 350HP, buy a Z28. Plain and simple. Save yourself the time and hassle of trying to get 350HP out of your 3.8L. The Z28 is probably going to be more streetable/reliable anyways. You might even get better gas mileage with the T56 behind the LS1. 350HP is not hard to get out of those LS1 engines with just a few of your basic bolt-on mods. Only problem with this idea is the insurance aspect of owning a Z28. At least that is the ONLY thing that is holding me back from gettin' me a Z! Actually, a lot of insurance companies will not even insure me(being only 19), the ones that will want to charge me an arm and a leg.
                    2000 Monterey Maroon Chevrolet Camaro<br />3.8L V-6/4spd Auto

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                    • #11
                      CamaroKRAZED, I know exactly your situation, being 19 also. I would say that at our age it is worth the insurance alone to put money into a v6. For example, for me the difference would be $400 every six months between a v6 and a v8. If I planned to have the car for at least 5 years (the loan term), you figure I will save $4000 on insurance alone.

                      If you add that in to the extra $2500 or so it would have cost to get a v8 of the same year, you get $6500 over the life of the payment period that you saved. $6500, my friend, is a lot of performance that could be added to your little 6.
                      2000 Mystic Teal Firebird<br />Full 3\" exhaust, FRA, Aluminum Driveshaft

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                      • #12
                        I believe that 350hp N/A is not that hard to do. but really horsepower doesnt mean anything. it all in how the power is put to the ground.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pivot:
                          I believe that 350hp N/A is not that hard to do. but really horsepower doesnt mean anything. it all in how the power is put to the ground.
                          I was thinking the same... I saw 15% drivetrain loss :eek: ... Is drivetrain loss always a fixxed rate? It would seem to me what may be 15% of 200 HP might be 10% of 250 or 300 HP... I always thought you just lose like at the most 25 - 30 HP to an A4 but as you increase the amount you lose to the drivetrain would remain the same... I guess I'm wrong? It's always a percentage of your power output?

                          350 HP and only putting down 297 HP kind of...sucks... Anyway the drivetrain loss can be taken out?

                          I was really just curious about the 350 HP mark... I was going to biuld the car to about 275 - 300... Anything more than that really isn't desperately needed... but it sure is fun! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

                          Where can I search up some Cams? also the more lift for intake / exhaust = more HP right?
                          1997 Camaro RS W/T-Tops<br />All Stock / 200 HP

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Need4Camaro:

                            Where can I search up some Cams?
                            http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...earch_forum=16
                            Matt
                            1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
                            Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
                              </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Need4Camaro:

                              Where can I search up some Cams?
                              http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...earch_forum=16 </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]
                              1997 Camaro RS W/T-Tops<br />All Stock / 200 HP

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