Rocker Arms (INTENSE or SLP )

[calvo]

which rocker arms are better?
http://www.intense-racing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Co de=RPK-1xx&Category_Code=P

OR

http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...RTNUMBER=51116

[ June 25, 2003: Message edited by: calvo ]</p>

[Dominic]

Cheaper from http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/pro...er_arms_gt.htm

[GTPprix]

Only cheaper because the ZZP kit doesnt come with pushrods, I believe otherwise they are the same price.

[SlimJim1284]

I would like to know the answer to that question too

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

for the money zzp, tehy are jsut as good as any of the others.. push rods are not gunna do much for you.. not to mention.. i would rather bend up a $7 stock rod then bust a valve cause the replacements dont bend..

~Bill

[calvo]

will the stock rod's work with the ZZ rockers? what ratio are they?

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

yes.. they are designed to work with the stock rods..

they are like 1.9 intake and 1.8 exhaust.. i think.. not 100% sure.. you can im zoomer.. and ask him if you really want to know..
his aim name is zooomer

if you have any other questions about the kit you can post here.. i have a little install guide and some dynos for it..

~Bill

[calvo]

The slp rockers jive a 9 or 10HP increase. What about the zzp rockers?

[Magnus]

Intense over ZZP definately.

Intense is much more V6 specific than generic SLP.

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

I put down 9 with my zzp rockers.. and that was on a warmer day then my baseline.. they all pretty much give the same 9-10 hp.. depending on mods..

~Bill

[FirebirdGT]

There are no ZZP rockers. ZZP sells INTENSE rockers.

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FirebirdGT:
There are no ZZP rockers. ZZP sells INTENSE rockers.<hr></blockquote>


der.. I am an ignorent moron..

~Bill

[ June 26, 2003: Message edited by: AllTheGoodNamesAreGone ]</p>

[FirebirdGT]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by AllTheGoodNamesAreGone:
hate to say it.. but.. wrong..

zzp fabs and sells the ER kit..

they also sell the intense kits..

~Bill<hr></blockquote>


Then explain this from the ZZP site:

INTENSE™ First Generation 'ER' Rocker Arms will fit any 1995-present 3800 Series II engine with the stock camshaft. No piston, cylinder head, pushrod, or valve spring changes are required to use these rockers. Maximum horsepower gains will be realized by those with free flowing induction and exhaust systems.

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

Hmm.. that bastard..

When I got mine they were not posted on either ZZP's or intenses site.. I got lucky and got my hands on them early by talking to zoomer..

I was under the impression that he developed the kit.. my bad.. (I will edit/remove)

hmm.. Looking at intense's site now.. they sell a TON of zzp stuff.. look in the induction section.. they might as well just merge..

Anyway, IMO.. if you want the intense/zzp kit.. I would buy it from zooomer.. he is alot easyer to get in touch with (im/email/phone).. I was talking ot the intense people one time and it was bitter..

I dunno.. i really wish zoomer would step up and make us some more gear and sponcer the board.. but.. slp is no better

~Bill

[FirebirdGT]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by AllTheGoodNamesAreGone:
hmm.. Looking at intense's site now.. they sell a TON of zzp stuff.. look in the induction section.. they might as well just merge..<hr></blockquote>


LOL, agreed. They are both great sites, and yes they sell a lot of each others stuff. And also, they appear to be working together on some projects.