3500 dollars to dump into engine

[OneQuickV6]

It's a well built motor Bo, I've seen his list! I do agree that more compression is just a little of what it takes to run fast NA, you do need more cam. Heck, I am running more cam in my car with just 9.6:1 CR, and mildly ported heads. Also, more gear is needed when running a bigger than stock camshaft in order to fully take advantage of its powerband.

It has to be a good combination of parts, each matched to the others to make power. Otherwise you have a bunch of baseballs, some football helmets, and some sissy dancers ready to play a in the Superbowl (1/4 mile).

[ReodDai]

Seeing a list doesn't imply a well built motor, it imply's he bought some parts. Alot more goes into a motor then just buying parts. I could go buy all of viper's engine components and let blldogg put it together and have me a very expensive boat anchor.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
Seeing a list doesn't imply a well built motor, it imply's he bought some parts. Alot more goes into a motor then just buying parts. I could go buy all of viper's engine components and let blldogg put it together and have me a very expensive boat anchor.

i paid $1775 for the motor to be taken apart and "restored" with all my stuff, from a raceing shop that way its done right

[ReodDai]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ReodDai:
Seeing a list doesn't imply a well built motor, it imply's he bought some parts. Alot more goes into a motor then just buying parts. I could go buy all of viper's engine components and let blldogg put it together and have me a very expensive boat anchor.

i paid $1775 for the motor to be taken apart and "restored" with all my stuff, from a raceing shop that way its done right </font>[/QUOTE]So your agreeing, you wouldn't let blldogg put your engine together either?

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ReodDai:
Seeing a list doesn't imply a well built motor, it imply's he bought some parts. Alot more goes into a motor then just buying parts. I could go buy all of viper's engine components and let blldogg put it together and have me a very expensive boat anchor.

i paid $1775 for the motor to be taken apart and "restored" with all my stuff, from a raceing shop that way its done right </font>[/QUOTE]So your agreeing, you wouldn't let blldogg put your engine together either? </font>[/QUOTE]hell no, 7 poeple can work on my car, Me, My dad, my mom, My good friend, and my girl friend. Race shop and my exaust guy, i'm goign to go nuts when i get to florida lol

[malice10985]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
I wanna know what this nubblet thinks a "n/a super motor" for a 3.8L is. So far you haven't said anything that even shadow's intelligent remarks. So what pray tell did you put inside your "Super motor"?

I am assuming you are talking about me. Click on my sig to see a basic rundown of how I built my powerplant. Since you are insulting my workmanship... Two people assembled it:
My buddy Mel- a certified aircraft powerplant mechanic
Me- An aircraft mechanic student.
The last time I checked, A&P techs were a lot more qualified to wrench than auto mechanics.

I noticed that your best time is 15.xx @90mph. I run a 13.75 @101.

If you have any more questions, or if you would like to continue being an a$$hole, please email me. We need not hijack furycharger's thread any more.

[ReodDai]

So you honestly think my track times have anything to do with my automotive knowledge? Good thing knowledge isn't directly related to my wallet. Oh and by the way, I'd rather have an auto mechanic under my hood than a guy who works on planes. Oh and as for "certified" I know a couple people who are certified to do trade skills that doesn't mean I would trust them to actually do it.
Since you wonder 13.75 was a nitrous run, what was your n/a runs on your super motor? Please tell me the n/a super motor isn't the one running a 100 shot...

[ReodDai]

Btw thank you for your little e-mail but I feel the rest of the board should know the extent of your "super motor". Since you did say the

Originally posted by malice10985:
I tried to build a high compression NA super motor. Honestly, it hasn't impressed me much at all. I think the 3800 is weak NA.

Also if your going to bother building a decent n/a motor. Don't buy an off the rack cam get everything ported and get a cam that works with your flow numbers not some generic POS(unless the generic POS fits your flow numbers the best, not likely).

Originally posted by malice10985:
Get a really fat cam to back it all up, like a GT2 or something.

[skorpion317]

a 13.5 on 100 shot of nitrous? all-motor times must be like high 14s, low 15s. hardly a "super N/A" motor.

[OneQuickV6]

Who says 15.0's NA aren't fast? Anybody that does, let's line them up. I'll let you pick your track or mine. At mine I run 15.0's spinning, at yours I will leave you, regardless of what the ET is.

Seems like it is always people from sea-level (or close to it) tracks that look down on high 14 and low 15's NA.

And Skorpion, I'm not pin-pointing you or anything. BUT, almost half of your mods are "look" mods, and your one listed kill is a 3000Gt, which is "hardly" super either.

[skorpion317]

Originally posted by OneQuickV6:
And Skorpion, I'm not pin-pointing you or anything. BUT, almost half of your mods are "look" mods, and your one listed kill is a 3000Gt, which is "hardly" super either.

what does that have to do with anything? i never said my car was fast. my point is, low 15s isn't fast for N/A. look at James (12secondV6). he runs 14.5 on the motor, mid twelves on the juice. that's fast. low 15's all-motor isn't all that fast. mid 13's is fast, but if you're on nitrous, you should be faster.

edit: and two of my listed mods are appearance mods. i don't know where you learned how to do math, but 2/6 isn't equal to 1/2. it's 1/3. go back to high school.

[ August 21, 2004, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: skorpion317 ]

[wasjo6431]

lol a 3000gt is made at the same plant the stealth rt was without turbo they both have a 3.0L v6 DOHC And no turbo theyb oth ar just front wheel drive. hardly fast at all, now put a turbo into effect and u wont touch one, because we used to own a stock stealth rt twin turbo, straight from the factory in 1994 would smoke ne new vette that was thrown at it, all because of the all wheel drive setup. Now your telling me that your So called Super car is fast? please my 3.4 would take 5.0s left and right, and take ne 3000gt thrown at it and stealth Rt as long as no turbos into effect and no nitrous, both N/A i would win, please if it was a 3000GT VR4 then u would possible have a super car.

[skorpion317]

Originally posted by wasjo6431:
lol a 3000gt is made at the same plant the stealth rt was without turbo they both have a 3.0L v6 DOHC And no turbo theyb oth ar just front wheel drive. hardly fast at all, now put a turbo into effect and u wont touch one, because we used to own a stock stealth rt twin turbo, straight from the factory in 1994 would smoke ne new vette that was thrown at it, all because of the all wheel drive setup. Now your telling me that your So called Super car is fast? please my 3.4 would take 5.0s left and right, and take ne 3000gt thrown at it and stealth Rt as long as no turbos into effect and no nitrous, both N/A i would win, please if it was a 3000GT VR4 then u would possible have a super car.

can you speak english, please?

[ReodDai]

Either way, james runs 14.5 with 175rwhp lol. That besides the point. My point was someone bad mouthing the 3.8L's n/a ability and saying they made a n/a super motor. I have a feeling it was no where near a "super motor" and if it is running nitrous then it damn sure isn't an N/A super motor or it would have blown up already.

[skorpion317]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
Either way, james runs 14.5 with 175rwhp lol. That besides the point. My point was someone bad mouthing the 3.8L's n/a ability and saying they made a n/a super motor. I have a feeling it was no where near a "super motor" and if it is running nitrous then it damn sure isn't an N/A super motor or it would have blown up already.

it's definitely not a "super motor" if it's only running low 15s N/A.