350+ hp

[97rs4life]

nah I am good. I only believe it when it is a track only car.

[lambo101]

i corrected myself, it was a 2.2 4 cylinder.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

there ar 3.8's i nthe 9's but i dont think the 3.4 will hold up do to the way the crank mounts

800 Hp at the crank is possible...... but all those are turbo car or dual charged car running 30 psi with 8.0 Comperetion....... a 300 HP NA car will run 11-12:1 to hit those numbers...

so figure out what way your going before you start biulding the motor

[lambo101]

Originally posted by viper04af:
there ar 3.8's i nthe 9's but i dont think the 3.4 will hold up do to the way the crank mounts

800 Hp at the crank is possible...... but all those are turbo car or dual charged car running 30 psi with 8.0 Comperetion....... a 300 HP NA car will run 11-12:1 to hit those numbers...

so figure out what way your going before you start biulding the motor

we shall see

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by lambo101:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
there ar 3.8's i nthe 9's but i dont think the 3.4 will hold up do to the way the crank mounts

800 Hp at the crank is possible...... but all those are turbo car or dual charged car running 30 psi with 8.0 Comperetion....... a 300 HP NA car will run 11-12:1 to hit those numbers...

so figure out what way your going before you start biulding the motor

we shall see </font>[/QUOTE]the only 3.4 i know that good put down those number right now is White95..... he has years into he project and just now getting it running

no ofense but at least once a month someone post something like this and we never hear from them again, so eather there are about 40-50 9 second car out there we done know about....

but please if you really serous keep us posted

[LTR450HQ.com]

Originally posted by lambo101:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by LTR450HQ.com:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by lambo101:
you can build a v6 camaro to 300hp without nos, turbo, or supercharger. i'm gonna do that first, then add turbo [img]smile.gif[/img]

are you sure? 300hp is alot without any of those mods, it would take tons of work, I would just do a supercharger.. </font>[/QUOTE]a lot of people here are only thinking 300-500hp with their v6's. i'm thinking 800-1000hp. </font>[/QUOTE]a jet engine might do the trick, lol

[1998silverbird]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by lambo101:
you can build a v6 camaro to 300hp without nos, turbo, or supercharger. i'm gonna do that first, then add turbo [img]smile.gif[/img]

max any dyno i have seen is ~280 NA on pump gas....

to get 300 N/A RWHP and then add a turbo is going about things the wrong way.... you would only be able to run 4 psi if your lucky with out race gas </font>[/QUOTE]Exactly.. Why would you build a N/A motor then put a power adder on it.. your better off building a power adder motor.. for example I built a Nitrous motor.. Had forged rods and pistons, ported and polished heads and intakes with a nitrous cam.. on motor the car dynoed 225rwhp and 225rwtq untuned.. Thats right around 260 flywheel hp..

[j10stuckinmud]

so anyway, back to the topic. What would be the easiest/cheapest way to get 300+ hp out of a 3.8 without nos? tc/sc are fine.

[97rs4life]

abbotts heads/cam/intakes along with a powerdyne sc system will easily get you over 300hp.

[lambo101]

if your looking for a quick way to get 300+ hp, then by all means go ahead and add a turbo or supercharger. you'll have a nice little car that can run with the v8's. but if you want to BEAT a v8, even a modded one, then it's better to build the engine, get as close to their stock hp as possible, then add a turbo or supercharger. then you can blow them away, and that's what i plan on doing.

[1998silverbird]

Originally posted by j10stuckinmud:
so anyway, back to the topic. What would be the easiest/cheapest way to get 300+ hp out of a 3.8 without nos? tc/sc are fine.

Your going to spend 5000.00 or more to get your car to 300+hp without nitrous.. Best bet would be a turbo.. I dont know how much the kits are but I am assuming not less then 3500.00 dollars.. then anywere from 500-1000 to get it installed if you dont plan on doing it yourself.. You will need some tunning software to optimize the extra power and HP tuners is 500.00 I think and on the dyno its 100-150 and hr to tune..

To get your car to that power with nitrous it will run you around 1000.00.. Nitous kit 650.00, headers 250.00, Walboro 255lb pump 110.00.. I used stock tuning on my motors when I sprayed them and that was from a 50 shot up to a 125 shot.. A 90 wet shot is your best bet.. My car with exhaust and lid with the 90 shot put down 292rwhp and 393rwtq.. Dont rule out nitrous.. It is the easiest and cheapest way..

[lambo101]

Originally posted by j10stuckinmud:
so anyway, back to the topic. What would be the easiest/cheapest way to get 300+ hp out of a 3.8 without nos? tc/sc are fine.

your car's stock right? i would much rather build it, that way, if you ever decide to throw in a turbo later, you'll gain a lot more from it because it will be complimented by the mods you've already done. in other words, you'll be able to run more boost and gain even more power because you have the parts that will handle that amount of power.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by lambo101:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by j10stuckinmud:
so anyway, back to the topic. What would be the easiest/cheapest way to get 300+ hp out of a 3.8 without nos? tc/sc are fine.

your car's stock right? i would much rather build it, that way, if you ever decide to throw in a turbo later, you'll gain a lot more from it because it will be complimented by the mods you've already done. in other words, you'll be able to run more boost and gain even more power because you have the parts that will handle that amount of power. </font>[/QUOTE]problem is if you biuld a NA motor it won't work for boost

[AZ3.8Camaro]

In order to get 350HP out of your motor you will need to do the following: rev the **** out of it.

You will need a forged crank, forged rods, forged pistons, ultra light weight valvetrain components with very still valve springs. Very good quality valves, retainers and locks.
You will need to run a lot of compression, 13.5:1 or so on race gas.
A huge cam, both lift and duration with a huge amount of overlap and a late intake valve closing time. Heads that flow a ton.

All that revved to 9000 RPM or so will net you more than 350HP. Won't be a street car by any means though.

[yellowfbod]

before you start talking about building an 800 to 1000 HP 3.4 you should do some reasearch into CPU tunning cause there isn't any and there won't ever be any. The only way to get decient power out of a 3.4 is with a turbo and even then you can only push it so far before you have to have tunning and again its not out there, if you want to major hp out of a V6 get a 3.8 that CAN be tuned with HP tunners. I'm not trying to be a dick but I had the same abintions before I realized that it can't be done with a ****LOAD of money, and if you have that kind of cash then just sell it for a built LS1 car.