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  • #61
    Originally posted by AZ3.8Camaro:

    I don't *think* lambo meant build a high CR motor, then boost it... I think he meant to just put forged internals in it, then boost it. I dunno though.
    No? You be the judge.

    "you can build a v6 camaro to 300hp without nos, turbo, or supercharger. i'm gonna do that first, then add turbo "

    "if your looking for a quick way to get 300+ hp, then by all means go ahead and add a turbo or supercharger. you'll have a nice little car that can run with the v8's. but if you want to BEAT a v8, even a modded one, then it's better to build the engine, get as close to their stock hp as possible, then add a turbo or supercharger. then you can blow them away, and that's what i plan on doing."

    I don't think he understands that doing what he is talking about means building the engine, then tearing it apart again to turbo it.

    C'mon - this is a 20 year old kid who calls himself 'lambo' and thinks you can get 1000 BHP out of an engine with heads you have to toss in the bin as a first step in tuning. Rebel without a clue. Leave him alone and maybe he'll learn something - maybe he won't, but I say give him a chance.

    I think the first clue was his tag - those of us that do own Lambos, Ferraris etc. don't usually put it in our tags, it's usually the guys that want to own them and are dreaming in technicolour.

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    • #62
      Yeah I dunno, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
      I wouldn't chase anyone off the board about it though.
      1997 Chevrolet Camaro v6 - 13.8@104MPH
      1997 Dodge Viper GTS

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      • #63
        i wear a lambo tag, because i think the lamborghini is the best looking "exotic" sports car in the world. i'm a big fan of it's body design and scissor doors. at any rate, maybe "build" wasn't the best word to use. when i said "build", i didn't necessarily mean the actual physical engine, rather the numbers(hp, torque, etc) behind the engine. what i was trying to point out is that you can get more potential out of a turbo by installing mods that compliment it. either way, i still believe that a 3.4 can make 1000hp with the proper work. is it extreme? yes. but that's because i don't want a 500hp v6, i want 1000hp. is 500hp a lot? for a v6, yes. but i don't want to just even the playing field between my car and other high end sports cars, i want to turn the tables completely. that's the type of person i am. i like to take things that were almost nothing at all, and put it at the top of board. i might be able to impress an owner of a corvette with a 500hp v6, but how would he feel if he knew my car could knock his doors off? people might think i'm crazy if i'm gonna try to take my car that far, but i don't care. one of my favorite sayings is: "Go big, or go home".
        1995 Bluish green 3.4l Camaro.<br />Bone stock right now lol!<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355</a>

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        • #64
          yea but 1000hp is not streetable and will need wheelie bars along with a parachute and rollcage...

          I.E. A TRACK only car.

          So please clarify if you plan on making this a streetable or track only car.
          http://www.bowtiev6.com/

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          • #65
            Lambo, There is nothing wrong with your posts other than the fact that you are missinformed... Is 1,000 HP Possible for a V6? Definately and of course it will take alot of time and money... HOWEVER You cannot just BIULD a car to 300 HP, call it more durable, and pop on 25 PSI to that... If you run 300 HP N/A then all your internals are BIULT to run ONLY N/A because your COMPRESSION RATIO will be WAY to high for boost, it has NOTHING to do with DURABILITY... You see, adding a S/C or Turbo increases your Compression Ratio SUBSTANTIALLY which is why you need a LOW Compression Ratio before you add it... If you have a 300 HP N/A car pushing a 13:1 C/R then you'd be lucky to beable to crank 4 PSI of Boost while keeping it streetable... The higher your Compression Ratio, the more OCTANE YOU NEED IN YOUR FUEL!!! If you topped a 13:1 Compression Ratio 300 HP N/A Biult V6 with a Turbo, that would SERIOUSLY bump the Compression Ratio up! Which means you would need SEVERELY HIGH Octane just to keep your engine running properly... I havn't seen many stations around here serving Racing Gas for anything in the $2.00 range... ;) Now you COULD say, ADD LOW COMPRESSION RATIO AND DURABLE PARTS... However, thats not going to net you anywere NEAR 300 HP in a 3.4 or 3.8 ... I'm guessing 250 at best??? The Turbo would just make up the gap...
            1997 Camaro RS W/T-Tops<br />All Stock / 200 HP

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            • #66
              i dyno at 199 RWHP N/A [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

              my turbo is a bolt on 250 RWHP [img]graemlins/banana.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/banana.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/banana.gif[/img]
              www.turbov6camaro.com
              1997 3800 Series II Camaro
              4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
              7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
              11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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              • #67
                Originally posted by viper04af:
                i dyno at 199 RWHP N/A [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

                my turbo is a bolt on 250 RWHP
                You also don't run a 3.4, correct?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Bill S:
                  </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
                  i dyno at 199 RWHP N/A [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

                  my turbo is a bolt on 250 RWHP
                  You also don't run a 3.4, correct? </font>[/QUOTE]So what?? Instead of dynoing 199 a 3.4 will dyno 159 and add 225hp from a turbo like Viper!! still very impressive!!
                  Jeff ..
                  1998 Firebird.. Built 3.8 with a 125 shot.. 370rwhp,415rwtq.. stock tune!! sold

                  2002 WS6 T/A.. Bolt ins..448rwhp
                  2009 G8 GT.. Vararam intake, GXP axleback
                  1998 Corvette.. Vararam intake, Ti axleback
                  http://www.fquick.com/slow-v6

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                  • #69
                    Jeff, I think you'll find that a 3.4 with turbo will land somewhere in the 330 BHP range with 10 psi. Those heads really get in the way even with a turbo to force them to produce!

                    I'm sure some people have attained a bit more, but above 350 doesn't come as easy as it does for your 3.8 engine, and I'd be surprised if any 3.4s show your really remarkable numbers (congrats, BTW - quite an acheivement!)

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by 97rs4life:
                      yea but 1000hp is not streetable and will need wheelie bars along with a parachute and rollcage...

                      I.E. A TRACK only car.

                      So please clarify if you plan on making this a streetable or track only car.
                      my streetable goal is anywhere from 700-800hp. if i decide to make it a track only car, then i'd like to step it up to 1000hp.
                      1995 Bluish green 3.4l Camaro.<br />Bone stock right now lol!<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355</a>

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                      • #71
                        So what have you bought for it to make it quicker so far?
                        <a href=\"http://www.ltr450hq.com\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.ltr450hq.com</a> <br />2002 Pewter Camaro-------------<br />-T-Tops -K&N Air Filter -Whisper Lid -Fast Toys CAI/RAI -Billet Grille -Decals All Around.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by lambo101:
                          </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 97rs4life:
                          yea but 1000hp is not streetable and will need wheelie bars along with a parachute and rollcage...

                          I.E. A TRACK only car.

                          So please clarify if you plan on making this a streetable or track only car.
                          my streetable goal is anywhere from 700-800hp. if i decide to make it a track only car, then i'd like to step it up to 1000hp. </font>[/QUOTE]the 3.8 are Barly hitting the 800 HP mark and for a year no one has made more power yet..... it seem s to be the top
                          www.turbov6camaro.com
                          1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                          4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                          7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                          11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                          • #73
                            800 HP is alot, and is crazy out of a v6. Its sick.


                            3.4 v. 3.8 is kind of like LT1 v. LS1 discussions lol.
                            2001 V6 Camaro - VTEC Badged, Abbott Racing Heads Sticker, and Loud A$$ Exhaust<br /><br /><b>BUILT NOT BOUGHT</b><br /><br />14.0 @ 96.44 MPH (Street Tires, Before Tranny)<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/6pakcamaro54\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/6pakcamaro54</a>

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by LTR450HQ.com:
                              So what have you bought for it to make it quicker so far?
                              what does my sig say?
                              1995 Bluish green 3.4l Camaro.<br />Bone stock right now lol!<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355</a>

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by viper04af:
                                the 3.8 are Barly hitting the 800 HP mark and for a year no one has made more power yet..... it seem s to be the top
                                And that engine breathes much better than the crappy cast iron headed 3.4 does.

                                If Lambo Boy thinks he can get 800 BHP, he is smoking something better than I am.

                                The bottom end of the 3.4 is not bad, and the new 3.5 and 3.9 versions when used with Gen 3 alloy heads definitely have possibilities. but the cast iron 3.4 is a dead end.

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