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    I am currently looking into rebuilding my motor to run alc, I'm a little sick of hearing about how the 3.4 is such a slow engine. It has been used for many years in F1, Nascar, and Indy, pumping 800+hp and running with red-lines of 14k+ rpm at 18-1 comp. ratios... I think I might take this car pure track. If anyone wants to do this, or knows some places to get the parts, piston heads ect. That would be a great help, being they are race parts, and very hard to find.
    1995 Camaro 3.4 A4<br /><br />CAI,IAT Relocate

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    do some seaches in this section, forced induction, intake/exhaust, mod encyclodpedia, and this . That should get you started in the right direction, especially using the fwd heads/intake & rotating assy inthe 3.4 rwd block
    1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
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    former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
    94 comero 3.4

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Nikos95:
      I am currently looking into rebuilding my motor to run alc, I'm a little sick of hearing about how the 3.4 is such a slow engine. It has been used for many years in F1, Nascar, and Indy, pumping 800+hp and running with red-lines of 14k+ rpm at 18-1 comp. ratios... I think I might take this car pure track. If anyone wants to do this, or knows some places to get the parts, piston heads ect. That would be a great help, being they are race parts, and very hard to find.
      www.ftpp.net has a wide range of parts for the 3.4l. i'll probably go with them myself. ya, i hate how people dis the 3.4 too. it's an awesome engine. anyone who disses the 3.4 is a *****.
      1995 Bluish green 3.4l Camaro.<br />Bone stock right now lol!<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355</a>

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      • #4
        wait half this site disses the 3.4
        Ben<br /><br />1995 White/Black 3.4L<br />As far away from stock as possible<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=288292\" target=\"_blank\">My Site!!!</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.redlinevsix.com\" target=\"_blank\">RedLineV6</a><br />Rebuild and 3.4 T70 Turbo is complete<br />Details to come....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by White95:
          wait half this site disses the 3.4
          then half the people here are *****es(if what you say is true)
          1995 Bluish green 3.4l Camaro.<br />Bone stock right now lol!<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2042355</a>

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          • #6
            hahaha
            -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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            • #7
              ROFL Thanks for the backup... Alright I'll take a look at that site and through the other topics for sure. Thanks guys
              1995 Camaro 3.4 A4<br /><br />CAI,IAT Relocate

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              • #8
                wait, your saying that they use GM 3.4L engines that they put in teh camaros and are making 800 HP with them??

                I highly doubt that.

                Now, maby them using a chevy 3.4L engine, but it would be TOTALLY different, its not like they go to the junkyard and pick up a 94 camaro and take the engine out of it.

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                • #9
                  FTPP is where i bought 95% of my stuff from Josh is really easy to work with
                  Ben<br /><br />1995 White/Black 3.4L<br />As far away from stock as possible<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=288292\" target=\"_blank\">My Site!!!</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.redlinevsix.com\" target=\"_blank\">RedLineV6</a><br />Rebuild and 3.4 T70 Turbo is complete<br />Details to come....

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                  • #10
                    A fully built 60* v6, maybe.... unlikely it was a 3.4L probably somethign like a 3.2ush area....


                    I have heard the 3.4L is bored out too much, for insane compression ratios...


                    next step you will need a custom stand alone fuel system or possibly just a crazy carb setup.

                    Because the stock computer will not be able to handle a high compression alcohol motor, there is NO tuning availible for the most part, if you do it some crazy custom job that will cost a fortune. And even if you do, building up for a 800hp motor will probably exceed the limitations of the stock computer.
                    -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by shenanigans:
                      A fully built 60* v6, maybe.... unlikely it was a 3.4L probably somethign like a 3.2ush area....


                      I have heard the 3.4L is bored out too much, for insane compression ratios...


                      next step you will need a custom stand alone fuel system or possibly just a crazy carb setup.

                      Because the stock computer will not be able to handle a high compression alcohol motor, there is NO tuning availible for the most part, if you do it some crazy custom job that will cost a fortune. And even if you do, building up for a 800hp motor will probably exceed the limitations of the stock computer.
                      what does boring have to do with compression

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                      • #12
                        cylinder walls start getting thinner, and can't handle the pressure and crack I assume.


                        just I have read up on building alot of crazy 60* v6s and it seems the 3.4L is almost never used.


                        but ehh I am no expert, just going off of what I read up years and years ago, and just opinions I have come up with over the years looking at the 60* v6 scene.

                        either way look to spend just as much money as you put into your motor just into tuning, if you stay Fuel injected... Seems to be most people's biggest problem.
                        -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by victimizati0n:
                          what does boring have to do with compression
                          If you bore it out too much, the cylinder walls may be too thin to safely handle really high compression.
                          Matt
                          1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
                          Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
                            </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
                            what does boring have to do with compression
                            If you bore it out too much, the cylinder walls may be too thin to safely handle really high compression. </font>[/QUOTE]OHHHHH i totally misread his post.

                            i thought he was saying it is bored to have high compression ratios [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img] me

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by victimizati0n:
                              </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
                              </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
                              what does boring have to do with compression
                              If you bore it out too much, the cylinder walls may be too thin to safely handle really high compression. </font>[/QUOTE]OHHHHH i totally misread his post.

                              i thought he was saying it is bored to have high compression ratios [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img] me
                              </font>[/QUOTE]nope, but the author of th thread was talking about what woudl be considered insane amounts of compression for alot of motors that were not purpose built for it. 18:1
                              -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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