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    Has anyone here tried or is currently using an AFC of SAFC? If you have one, how do you like it. If you don't, why.
    \" As being is to becoming, so is pure itellect to opinion, so is science to belief, and understanding to the peception of shadows.\" - Plato

  • #2
    I assume you have the Apex-i air/fuel controllers in mind right now. I'm pretty sure they won't hook up to our cars. I'm not sure if they use a ALDL connection or if it's just wires that splice into the PCM wires. I guess anything is doable but I don't think anyone has it here.
    ---<br />-\'95 3.4L M5 Camaro

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    • #3
      The Mini-AFC and ICCU will work and perform similar tasks.

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      • #4
        I have the mini-afc from zzperformance. It works. Gonna really put it to use when I get my auto xray.
        <b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49

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        • #5
          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by I_Love_Houston:
          ...Mini AFC - It doesn't have seperate WOT and BASE settings right? So it only does one? Which one? It doesn't say anything in the description. And it doesn't have any timing settings. $100

          MAFT+ - BASE/WOT air/fuel and timing for $270
          <hr></blockquote>

          Yeah, the mini-afc only has base settings. I would have opted for MAFT+ if I didn't have the jetchip. Didn't want to bother trying to sell it, plus I rather have "canned" tuning when it comes to timing, since I know little about detonation, etc.

          [ February 28, 2003: Message edited by: AMinor65 ]</p>
          <b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49

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          • #6
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>quote:
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            Originally posted by I_Love_Houston:
            ...Mini AFC - It doesn't have seperate WOT and BASE settings right? So it only does one? Which one? It doesn't say anything in the description. And it doesn't have any timing settings. $100
            MAFT+ - BASE/WOT air/fuel and timing for $270


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            Yeah, the mini-afc only has base settings. I would have opted for MAFT+ if I didn't have the jetchip. Didn't want to bother trying to sell it, plus I rather have "canned" tuning when it comes to timing, since I know little about detonation, etc.

            <hr></blockquote>
            Has anybody actually USED a MAFT/MAFT+/Mini-AFC with a Jet/Hypertech programming??? Since the tuneup is generic, I'd think there would possibly be room to "fine tune" with one of the other products. A couple of us have talked about it, but I don't know if anybody has done it or if there's much room to adjust after the generic tune. I have the HPP III and a MAFT+, but it will have to wait for warmer weather and my OBD-2 software before I try anything.
            Ron
            I know - Camaro 67-02.. 2000 Camaro V6/A4 Black T-Tops<br />1969 Camaro 350/PG 12.69 @ 102.5 1966 Chevy II Wagon 283/PG Destined for NHRA stock eliminator.

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            • #7
              I'm using the mini-afc with the jetchip. In fact, I'm also using a tps-tec throttle enhancer too.

              Yes, my intention is to fine tune the jetchip with the mini-afc. Won't be able to do it until my auto xray (like autotap) arrives so that I can look at o2 sensor readings. I've tried to tune it by SOTP, but you can't. That's too subjective.
              If you're gonna play around with your MAF readings, you need a scan tool, otherwise it's a wasted effort. There's also the chance that you may cause damage to your engine by running too lean.

              For now, I have the mini-afc set on 99%. I have had it as low as 97%, and thought I felt a little more power, but got scared that I might be running too lean.

              [ March 01, 2003: Message edited by: AMinor65 ]</p>
              <b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49

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