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    it's been a long time since i f*** up the engine on my car, but the time has come and i'm ready to give life to my baby again [img]smile.gif[/img] .
    i have saved some money already and i'm considering the use of a turbocharge system (Please see details on forced induction). so i've changed my mind regarding the cam i would use. (gt cam before) and i think i'm going to go with the vs one. do we have a better alternative???
    2003 Mustang Mach 1 5 Speed<br />288 rwhp SAE 315 rwtq SAE<br />BFG DR\'s, SLP Loudmouth Catback, K&N CAI<br />60\': 2.145<br />13.41@105.67MPH (Stock)<br />--- Best et ----<br />60: 1.932<br />1/4:12.851@106.39MPH <br />best mph: 107.65

  • #2
    post the specs to those

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    • #3
      i think th vs is made for forced induction cars.

      http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/pro...ion_vs_cam.htm
      2001 GTP,11psi,3.4,3.25 pulley, Custom K&N cone, 180t-stat, alarm, remote start,tints,Borla Cat-back exhaust, KVR performance slotted rotors, and 3inch DP with gutted cat, ported TB, yokohoma yk420 245/50/16\'s, autolite 605\'s with taylor wires(sold).

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      • #4
        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Tiago:
        post the specs to those<hr></blockquote>

        Sure i will. Thanks for the good work
        2003 Mustang Mach 1 5 Speed<br />288 rwhp SAE 315 rwtq SAE<br />BFG DR\'s, SLP Loudmouth Catback, K&N CAI<br />60\': 2.145<br />13.41@105.67MPH (Stock)<br />--- Best et ----<br />60: 1.932<br />1/4:12.851@106.39MPH <br />best mph: 107.65

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        • #5
          The right turbo with the wrong cam will still make more power than the right cam with the wrong turbo.

          Cam is supplement to the turbo.
          <b>15.41</b> @ 89.80 & 15.45 @ <b>91.64</b>, 2.21 60ft, 3,440 raceweight, using <b>OEM</b> Equipment. <br />\'98 L67/M49 w/ 134,000 miles before spun bearing. \"<i>It\'s all stock, Baby</i>!\"

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          • #6
            The VS cam was designed for supercharged cars.

            You;re going to hear some differing opinions on turbo cams. Some people like to use revers split duration cams on turbo cars. Others don't (me). If I were you, I'd go ask the people on www.turbobuick.com and see what kind of guidelines they give you. Whatever you decide, make sure it has a high LSA, and decent lift (which the VS cam does have).

            EDIT:

            http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c437a8e18a801 f42838f1e6809288ff6&threadid=54847&highlight=cam

            http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/sho...m&pagenumber=1

            [ July 16, 2003: Message edited by: HAZ-Matt ]</p>
            Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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            • #7
              thanks guys, i'll do my homework then [img]smile.gif[/img]
              i'll let you guys know
              2003 Mustang Mach 1 5 Speed<br />288 rwhp SAE 315 rwtq SAE<br />BFG DR\'s, SLP Loudmouth Catback, K&N CAI<br />60\': 2.145<br />13.41@105.67MPH (Stock)<br />--- Best et ----<br />60: 1.932<br />1/4:12.851@106.39MPH <br />best mph: 107.65

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              • #8
                Here are the specs i would recommend.

                Stage 2 Turbo cam:
                214/206 .530/.512 116lsa 110I/C

                Stage 3 Turbo cam:
                223/214 .541/.531 116lsa 110I/C

                The Stage 3 cam is the one i plan on running if i keep the 3.8L and go turbo like my original plans.


                The Stage 2 cam is the one the Intense-racing is using in there 10.998 @ 128.32 mph turbo GTP
                <b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers

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                • #9
                  thanks slacker, i was reading about those intense turbocharged cams
                  here is what i found from their website

                  "'These are the cams for those of you looking to develop turbo setups for the 3800 Series II. The Stage 2 Turbocharged Cam is right on the hairy edge of being safe to use with stock cylinder heads, and it is ideal for use with modified heads and stronger valvesprings (see INTENSE™ Stage 3 CNC L67 Cylinder Heads). The powerband is strongest from 2,800 to 6,800 RPM. The Stage 3 Turbocharged Cam should NOT not be used with stock cylinder heads and/or stock valvesprings. It is engineered for use with highly modified cylinder heads and oversized valves, and is a perfect match to the INTENSE™ Stage 3 CNC L67 Cylinder Heads. We predict a strong powerband from 3,000 to 7,000 RPM. With either choice, you will need to use a higher stall torque converter, such as our INTENSE™ 245 mm. Extreme Duty (TCC-350) Torque Converter.


                  CAM-902 - INTENSE™ Stage 2 Turbo Cam, duration @ .050": 214º/206º, lobe lifts: .331"/.320", valve lifts with 1.60:1 rocker arms: .530"/.512", lobe separation angle: 116º, intake centerline: 110º
                  CAM-903 - INTENSE™ Stage 3 Turbo Cam, duration @ .050": 223º/214º, lobe lifts: .338"/.332", valve lifts with 1.60:1 rocker arms: .541"/.531", lobe separation angle: 116º, intake centerline: 110º (+$20.00)

                  IMPORTANT NOTES:

                  -We recommend that a new timing chain and timing chain tensioner be installed in conjunction with any new 3800 cam

                  -We recommend CompCams "OE R Series" Hydraulic Roller Lifters, High Load Valvesprings, and Valvespring Retainers with any aftermarket camshaft

                  -We recommend INTENSE™ High-Performance Pushrods with any aftermarket camshaft

                  -INTENSE™ Camshafts are hydraulic rollers, so no break-in period is required

                  -No PCM changes are required, however the INTENSE™ Stage 2 Turbocharged Cam may set an occasional S.E.S. light after extended idle periods. The Stage 3 Turbo cam WILL set the S.E.S. light at idle.

                  -Stage 2 Turbo Cam users will benefit from higher WOT shift points (6,500 to 6,800 RPM) and rev limiter settings (7,000 RPM). Stage 3 users will benefit with even higher WOT shift points (6,700 to 7,000 RPM) and rev limiter settings (7,200 RPM)."


                  hell it would be more fun to drive my car after 3 months [img]smile.gif[/img] now the problem would be hitting the darn rev limiter at 6000 RPM's. :mad:

                  The Prices are:

                  Intense stage 2 turbocharged cam - cam-90x -$349.99
                  oer series hydraulic roller lifters - vls-671 - $159.99
                  compcams high load valvespring retainers - vss-1xx - $134.99
                  compcams valvespring retainers - vrs-77x - $44.99
                  intense highperformance pushroads - prx-705 - $129.99


                  something else that i should be aware of???
                  pros/cons

                  thanks guys

                  [ July 18, 2003: Message edited by: 99redcamaro ]</p>
                  2003 Mustang Mach 1 5 Speed<br />288 rwhp SAE 315 rwtq SAE<br />BFG DR\'s, SLP Loudmouth Catback, K&N CAI<br />60\': 2.145<br />13.41@105.67MPH (Stock)<br />--- Best et ----<br />60: 1.932<br />1/4:12.851@106.39MPH <br />best mph: 107.65

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                  • #10
                    ok, looks like this is the one since nobody else replied.

                    so what about california emissions and this cam,
                    i want to get that turbo but i want to be compaliant with emissions too. Also what about the sound, mild or hot.

                    i don't care to much about the ses light at idle.

                    please guys shoot your answers :cool:

                    [ July 23, 2003: Message edited by: 99redcamaro ]</p>
                    2003 Mustang Mach 1 5 Speed<br />288 rwhp SAE 315 rwtq SAE<br />BFG DR\'s, SLP Loudmouth Catback, K&N CAI<br />60\': 2.145<br />13.41@105.67MPH (Stock)<br />--- Best et ----<br />60: 1.932<br />1/4:12.851@106.39MPH <br />best mph: 107.65

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