Nino pretty much answered my questions.
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Factory:Camaro 5 speed, Color Pewter, w/ t-tops and Y87 package. <br />Engine: K&N filter w/ Whisper Lid, FRA, Borla adjustable cat-back exhaust. Hurst w/ Short Stick<br />Interior:Oil temp. and Air/Fuel ratio gauges, System.<br />Exterior: Black outs front and back, 18 in. Lenso rims w/ Kumho Supra 275/35ZR18 tires, also limo tint on sides and back.<br />173.2rwhp-----200.5tq
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tom emailed me some stuff about it and one option (not power pak) is for $1350 get heads, 1.90 custom intake vavles, Comp Cam and springs. this sounds like a dam good deal and WILL deffently do this.2002 NBM Pontiac Firebird Formula<br />Mods: stock...<br />1997 Chevy Camaro *Gone*<br />Mods:Borla,headers,Magnaflow cat, SLP intake, NOS 5175
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Silv6:
tom emailed me some stuff about it and one option (not power pak) is for $1350 get heads, 1.90 custom intake vavles, Comp Cam and springs. this sounds like a dam good deal and WILL deffently do this.<hr></blockquote>
let us know how it turns out.6s.......under the hood or under the belt, they just dont cut it.
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just need to save paychecks! and convence parents to let me spend?"waste" my money2002 NBM Pontiac Firebird Formula<br />Mods: stock...<br />1997 Chevy Camaro *Gone*<br />Mods:Borla,headers,Magnaflow cat, SLP intake, NOS 5175
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Stage 5 Mustang 3.8 stuff. 320 RWHP :eek:
Stage 1 F-body 3.8L stuff. 40hp over stock. :rolleyes:
And he wonders why he can't sell anything?
Have you priced out the hp/$$$ he is asking? That good deal you are talking about is a joke.
1,500 dollars for 40 more horses. $37.50 a horse.
vs. supercharger $3,500 for 100 HP = $35 a horse.
When Tom decides to get serious about making horsepower in GM 3.8L's, he'll see more customers. He may be great at porting the stock heads. But don't expect business to thrive because you can port. Especially on an engine most people leave stock anyway.
Since he is the only one to make stuff for the 3.8L I'll still probably end up doing business with him if I keep the V6 plan alive.
Just trying to put it in perspective.<b>15.41</b> @ 89.80 & 15.45 @ <b>91.64</b>, 2.21 60ft, 3,440 raceweight, using <b>OEM</b> Equipment. <br />\'98 L67/M49 w/ 134,000 miles before spun bearing. \"<i>It\'s all stock, Baby</i>!\"
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guess you werent exactly a straight A student, i said $1350 for it which means 33.75 per pony. stangs are naturely slow and detuned. and have to use a power adder to get good numbers2002 NBM Pontiac Firebird Formula<br />Mods: stock...<br />1997 Chevy Camaro *Gone*<br />Mods:Borla,headers,Magnaflow cat, SLP intake, NOS 5175
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blig, what are you crunching pennies that much? its only $2.50.
well boys and girls we have another "just need to save checks." my friend, remember talk is cheap.
a wise man knows all the big words, but a smart man knows when to keep his mouth shut. but if you do go thru with it, let us know how it turns out.6s.......under the hood or under the belt, they just dont cut it.
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There is a lot more speed to be found in the L36 cars. But only half of it is in the motor. And at that, all I am saying is that Tom and SSM are not putting out numbers that wow, other than the prices.
If he ever fabricates a street tunnel ram for the L36, I'll be all over it. I wonder if Edelbrock (Way way way on down the road) will ever venture into 3.8L territory?<b>15.41</b> @ 89.80 & 15.45 @ <b>91.64</b>, 2.21 60ft, 3,440 raceweight, using <b>OEM</b> Equipment. <br />\'98 L67/M49 w/ 134,000 miles before spun bearing. \"<i>It\'s all stock, Baby</i>!\"
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:
If he ever fabricates a street tunnel ram for the L36, I'll be all over it. I wonder if Edelbrock (Way way way on down the road) will ever venture into 3.8L territory?<hr></blockquote>
street tunnel ram what is that?
i doubt edelbrock would do this because GM quit making our beloved cars:<, so the market is small2002 NBM Pontiac Firebird Formula<br />Mods: stock...<br />1997 Chevy Camaro *Gone*<br />Mods:Borla,headers,Magnaflow cat, SLP intake, NOS 5175
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what i am saying is that it is only $2.50 off of your superchargers price. do you want to spend a little or do you want to spend alot? it cost about the same at $2.50 difference. imagine having the power pack and a supercharger. what would that be worth?6s.......under the hood or under the belt, they just dont cut it.
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:
Stage 5 Mustang 3.8 stuff. 320 RWHP :eek:
Stage 1 F-body 3.8L stuff. 40hp over stock. :rolleyes:
And he wonders why he can't sell anything?
Have you priced out the hp/$$$ he is asking? That good deal you are talking about is a joke.
1,500 dollars for 40 more horses. $37.50 a horse.
vs. supercharger $3,500 for 100 HP = $35 a horse.
When Tom decides to get serious about making horsepower in GM 3.8L's, he'll see more customers. He may be great at porting the stock heads. But don't expect business to thrive because you can port. Especially on an engine most people leave stock anyway.
Since he is the only one to make stuff for the 3.8L I'll still probably end up doing business with him if I keep the V6 plan alive.
Just trying to put it in perspective.<hr></blockquote>
do you have intake/exhaust? how much was your $/hp with that? mine was 190 (sale price)for CAI and 320 for exhaust...and I MAYBE gained 15 horses...that would be 34/hp...so I guess that supercharger would be a waste of money since its a whole dollar more per hp than my CAI and exhaust were :rolleyes:\'97 Pontiac Firebird A4 3.08/open<br />Best 60ft.: 2.411 Best 1/8: 10.262 @ 69.726 Best 1/4: 15.941 @ 87.48<br />Mods: SLP CAI, Loudmouth, Test Pipe
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Blig, it is my firm opinion that porting the heads on a 3.8L is a worthless/useless waste of time UNTIL you need more airflow than it needs n/a. The gains produced from the powerpak are from the camswap alone. Given the proper cam, you will produce the most horsepower you can until you really do some hefty port work to do nifty things like increasing valve sizes.2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
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would the gains be better to get all those parts of the supersix pack individually? And not necessarily through him? I'd tried contacting him using the email address via the website and it said that it's no longer in service . Oh, thanks to nino for the backup against the moderator's wrath [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] You guys say 40 horses, but I thought it was more like 60? 30 from the mods, 30 from the computer tuning~The Guru\'s Guru~<br />1999 Camaro,K&N,!MAF<br />!airsilencer,3.08s,<br />NGK-TR6\'s,Taylor Blue 8mm wires,FRAM,A4,Catco Cat, Magnaflow 3 inch catback,transgo shift kit<br />Waiting: RK sport headers, custom y pipe electric cutout<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/divinejc\" target=\"_blank\">www.cardomain.com/id/divinejc</a>
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