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    on an N/A car with just full exhaust, and intake
    96 Camaro M5. Dark metallic gree (?dont know the offical color name)<br />Home made Intake :: Headers, 3inch headers back to Flowmaster muffler :: spec stage 3 clutch Now installed, waiting for 3.42\'s and LSD next month<br /><a href=\"http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/RiceEatingCamaro/?action=view&current=newcar.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">My Car</a> <br /><br />Totalled Car.<br /><a href=\"http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/k/sk8er305/\" target=\"_blank\">96 CamaroRS</a>

  • #2
    What are you trying to accomplish? Power? MPG? Knock supression?

    [ April 23, 2002: Message edited by: Dominic ]</p>
    2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
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    • #3
      always better rich than lean

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      • #4
        I would think you want neither more than the other, but a I guess rich(more air) is better...
        Bolt-ons and lots of em\' <p>best ET 12.9@104mph

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        • #5
          If you run lean you have a greater chance of damaging your engine.
          1995 Camaro 3.4 v6. Dead<br />1995 Trans Am FIPK.

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          • #6
            thats all i needed to know... i was just curious
            96 Camaro M5. Dark metallic gree (?dont know the offical color name)<br />Home made Intake :: Headers, 3inch headers back to Flowmaster muffler :: spec stage 3 clutch Now installed, waiting for 3.42\'s and LSD next month<br /><a href=\"http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/RiceEatingCamaro/?action=view&current=newcar.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">My Car</a> <br /><br />Totalled Car.<br /><a href=\"http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/k/sk8er305/\" target=\"_blank\">96 CamaroRS</a>

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            • #7
              Its MUCH safer to run rich.
              It's very dangerous to run lean on a power adder motor.

              NA it can help power to run lean.
              Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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              • #8
                I thought rich was more fuel?
                1997 Chevrolet Camaro v6 - 13.8@104MPH
                1997 Dodge Viper GTS

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                • #9
                  Rich = more fuel
                  lean = less fuel
                  Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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                  • #10
                    How do you tell if you're running rich or lean??? I guess some people can tell by the smell of the exhaust? I can't!!!
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                    • #11
                      wide band o2 sensor

                      you could also use stock o2 sensors with autotap, but your readings wont be THAT accurate.. wide band is the best way.
                      Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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                      • #12
                        what is wideband? A certain type of O2 sensor?
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                        • #13
                          ya what is wideband magnus

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                          • #14
                            Wideband is an o2 sensor that reports a fairly linear voltage change, over a wider range of a/f ratios. The stock o2 (narrowband?) will report tiny little variations in a/f on either side of 14:7, but when you move very far from center, the voltage changes a lot, and you can't distinguish the ratio anymore.

                            Stock sensor would be kind of like a speedometer that told you within a 1/10 of a mph, how fast you are going, but only while you are going 55-65. And it would just report a steady 40mph if you were driving anywhere from 0-50. Or a steady 80mph if you were driving between 70-100.

                            Wideband would accurately report mph, to within 1 or 2 mph, from 10-100mph.
                            \'98 A4 Camaro v6-&gt;v8 conversion, and STS kit next<br />v6: 13.6 Powerdyne, 13.2 150 shot, 13.8 120 shot, 14.3 85 shot, 15.7 stock<br />v8(na): 12.18@113, 392rwhp<br />Moderator on <a href=\"http://www.mtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">www.mtfba.org</a> and <a href=\"http://www.frrax.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.frrax.com</a> (Road Race & Autocross)<br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/johnduncan10\" target=\"_blank\">Car pics</a>, <a href=\"http://www.trscca.com\" target=\"_blank\">TN Region SCCA</a>

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