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  • higher than 220 duration with 1.8 rockers??

    my buddy tld me that the GT cam would be to lowa duration, i should go more agressive and def put some rocker arms in there to allow or more air to enter for the longer duration.
    SLP CAI, RK Sport headers, P&Ped heads and intake, GT2 cam, Upgraded valvetrain, Z28 rear axle with 4.10s Tx Spd tune, Z06 rims, 2.5\" exhaust to flowmaster, 160* thermo, B&M ripper, upgraded ignition, rockford fosgate 12\" with sony xplode amp and HU.

  • #2
    you going NA/NOS/SC/turbo???

    ans 220 on what side?
    www.turbov6camaro.com
    1997 3800 Series II Camaro
    4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
    7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
    11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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    • #3
      you can't add much more duration without first getting comprehensive tuning. adding a lot of lift (by changing rocker ratio) to our stock heads will cause you some problems too; you will need to mill your pedestals / add better valve seals / replace stock with modified retainers.

      that is a very basic rundown though; you will want to talk to somebody with more specific knowledge.

      [ May 10, 2004, 09:21 PM: Message edited by: RallyRed 98 ]

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      • #4
        stock heads no more then .500 lift

        duration just takes tunning for the car to run without stalling or hoging gas like a 4 barrle 555 lol
        www.turbov6camaro.com
        1997 3800 Series II Camaro
        4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
        7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
        11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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        • #5
          Originally posted by viper04af:
          stock heads no more then .500 lift
          You should be able to safely run between .520 - .530 on stock heads.
          Matt
          1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
          Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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          • #6
            1.8 rockers on a GT cam would make the lift .570, which is to much for stock heads.
            92 S10 3800 A4(96)<br />1/4: 14.374 @ 92.25 w/ 1.976 60\'<br />Turbo and 12\'s Coming Soon!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
              </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
              stock heads no more then .500 lift
              You should be able to safely run between .520 - .530 on stock heads. </font>[/QUOTE]

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              • #8
                so if i got an aggressiv cam being higher than 220 with everything else stock, would my engine be straight?
                SLP CAI, RK Sport headers, P&Ped heads and intake, GT2 cam, Upgraded valvetrain, Z28 rear axle with 4.10s Tx Spd tune, Z06 rims, 2.5\" exhaust to flowmaster, 160* thermo, B&M ripper, upgraded ignition, rockford fosgate 12\" with sony xplode amp and HU.

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                • #9
                  There's more to a cam than just duration. Lift, Lobe Seperation, and more are equally as important. An aggressive cam may well go beyond the limits of an otherwise stock engine. We can't tell you how a cam will act while just knowing that it's duration is &gt; 220.

                  http://users.spec.net/home/emxjc/cam_shaft_power.html
                  Matt
                  1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
                  Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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                  • #10
                    I bet your buddy has a v8 or something. He probly doesnt know much about the 3.8 motors so take advice from people on this forum and not your friend.

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                    • #11
                      .525 is supposed to be the limit on stock heads, after that milling is required. I know Matt (One QuickV6) has his cam on stock heads with .528 lift. I really wouldn't suggest running any cam without at least having some minor headwork done.
                      2000 Firebird. Whisper Lid, True duals, TSP mail order tune, Built Tranny , TCI 2800 stall verter, B&M tranny cooler, Eaton LSD, 3.42 gears. Current best ET. 15.232 89.09 MPH 2.175 60ft on stock 3.42\'s and open diff.<a href=\"http://www.geocities.c

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                      • #12
                        Id say mill down the valve seal pedastals and go for it. You can probably do it with a dremel.
                        1997 Chevrolet Camaro v6 - 13.8@104MPH
                        1997 Dodge Viper GTS

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                        • #13
                          I dont think the added lift from 1.8 rockers is going to net you much more power. Its only going to give you problems. I would stick with the 1.6 stock rockers and try 220 duration if you want. You can still run high lifts with stock rockers, if you run high lifts with 1.8 rockers i think you will have problems. 1.8 Rockers are expensive anyways. Save your money.

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