* another ****ty udpate*Blown Head gasket

[AZ3.8Camaro]

Originally posted by camaroincal:
HAHA Jason. I bet you're gonna feel dumb when you click on this link.....

http://engine.firebirdv6.com/ Go ahead and scroll down to Thermostats. Get your facts straight before you act like you're so smart. [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

Jason said: "It would be appreciated by many if you would eliminate using such language in the forums."

Oh, I'm sorry...I didn't realize this was www.holycamarov6.com :rolleyes:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I didn't act like a child, I acted like a parent, telling a kid to suck it up.

[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]

Ya well you'd have a hard time telling a 6' 215 pound 22 year old "kid" to suck it up to his face now wouldn't ya? [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, I would because I would be looking down at him..

I haven't made personal attacks, I have simply tried to give you advice on not getting ripped off. Camarov6, particulary the advanced tech is about doing it yourself, so myself, Magnus and a few others tried to give you advice. You got all freaked out.
All we get now is... "waaaaa my fans come on too high... waaaaaa it runs 210 degrees waaaaaa..."
Post that crap in general tech.

[camaroincal]

Originally posted by AZ3.8Camaro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaroincal:
HAHA Jason. I bet you're gonna feel dumb when you click on this link.....

http://engine.firebirdv6.com/ Go ahead and scroll down to Thermostats. Get your facts straight before you act like you're so smart. [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

Jason said: "It would be appreciated by many if you would eliminate using such language in the forums."

Oh, I'm sorry...I didn't realize this was www.holycamarov6.com :rolleyes:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I didn't act like a child, I acted like a parent, telling a kid to suck it up.

[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]

Ya well you'd have a hard time telling a 6' 215 pound 22 year old "kid" to suck it up to his face now wouldn't ya? [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, I would because I would be looking down at him..

I haven't made personal attacks, I have simply tried to give you advice on not getting ripped off. Camarov6, particulary the advanced tech is about doing it yourself, so myself, Magnus and a few others tried to give you advice. You got all freaked out.
All we get now is... "waaaaa my fans come on too high... waaaaaa it runs 210 degrees waaaaaa..."
Post that crap in general tech. </font>[/QUOTE]Oh so the Advanced tech is some "Elite Society" lmfao. Maybe I should start [img]graemlins/bowdown.gif[/img] to you all then is that how you would like it master? [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

The only time I got all freaked is when people made false accusations like "Oh your just a dumbass you didn't watch your temp and that's why the heads cracked" blah balh blah out the *** type of crap like that. Also people saying. "Oh, you should just do it yourself it's so easy....RIGHT real easy..not. Everyone likes to talk like they ****ing know everything when infact they probably **** it up even worse and end up taking it to a mechanic anyway to fix their bonehead mistakes. Whereas I'm up front and honest..admitting I can't do this type of fix.

Of course people like me are prone to bashing, but oh well. LIKE I SAID I wish to leave this thread alone...hell I was even man enough to say I apologize for the arguments....but knowone listens....and so i have to keep standing up for myself.

[ June 06, 2004, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: camaroincal ]

[AZ3.8Camaro]

Originally posted by camaroincal:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AZ3.8Camaro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaroincal:
HAHA Jason. I bet you're gonna feel dumb when you click on this link.....

http://engine.firebirdv6.com/ Go ahead and scroll down to Thermostats. Get your facts straight before you act like you're so smart. [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

Jason said: "It would be appreciated by many if you would eliminate using such language in the forums."

Oh, I'm sorry...I didn't realize this was www.holycamarov6.com :rolleyes:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I didn't act like a child, I acted like a parent, telling a kid to suck it up.

[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]

Ya well you'd have a hard time telling a 6' 215 pound 22 year old "kid" to suck it up to his face now wouldn't ya? [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Yeah, I would because I would be looking down at him..

I haven't made personal attacks, I have simply tried to give you advice on not getting ripped off. Camarov6, particulary the advanced tech is about doing it yourself, so myself, Magnus and a few others tried to give you advice. You got all freaked out.
All we get now is... "waaaaa my fans come on too high... waaaaaa it runs 210 degrees waaaaaa..."
Post that crap in general tech. </font>[/QUOTE]Oh so the Advanced tech is some "Elite Society" lmfao. Maybe I should start [img]graemlins/bowdown.gif[/img] to you all then is that how you would like it master? [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

The only time I got all freaked is when people made false accusations like "Oh your just a dumbass you didn't watch your temp and that's why the heads cracked" blah balh blah out the *** type of crap like that. Also people saying. "Oh, you should just do it yourself it's so easy....RIGHT real easy..not. Everyone likes to talk like they ****ing know everything when infact they probably **** it up even worse and end up taking it to a mechanic anyway to fix their bonehead mistakes. Whereas I'm up front and honest..admitting I can't do this type of fix.

Of course people like me are prone to bashing, but oh well. LIKE I SAID I wish to leave this thread alone...hell I was even man enough to say I apologize for the arguments....but knowone listens....and so i have to keep standing up for myself. </font>[/QUOTE]I've done my head gaskets. My car runs.

All I am saying is, when you post in advanced tech, you will get "do it yourself" answers.
What did you expect?

[AZ3.8Camaro]

Originally posted by camaroincal:
Ya well you'd have a hard time telling a 6' 215 pound 22 year old "kid" to suck it up to his face now wouldn't ya? [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]

You threating people now BTW???
Thats very mature.

[Timbo1969]

Someone please lock this thread.. it's way past the stage of total gheyness!!

[camaroincal]

I agree. It should have been locked a page or 2 ago.

[Iwantafbodyagain]

Originally posted by camaroincal:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by RallyRed 98:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaroincal:

Ok I lied I'm not done...how many miles is 400,000 km?

divide by 1.6... [img]smile.gif[/img]

and the winner for off-topic thread... this one! :eek: </font>[/QUOTE]You know I wish this thread hadn't gotten off topic. People just feel like bashing someone and that someone happens to be me this time.

So 400,000 km = 250,000 miles...damn that's a lot lot of miles. But I was thinking, Canada is MUCH cooler than Cali so right there is a big advantage to the longeveity of these cars in such a climate. </font>[/QUOTE]Starting your car at -30*F is NOT easyer on the car. The car wont even build oil pressure at that temp for atleast 4 seconds.

[Jason McCallister]

Originally posted by camaroincal:
HAHA Jason. I bet you're gonna feel dumb when you click on this link.....

http://engine.firebirdv6.com/ Go ahead and scroll down to Thermostats. Get your facts straight before you act like you're so smart.

That incorrect information has been addressed to site admins in the past but yet the page has not been updated. :( Please do not make me refer to GM documentation to prove it. :rolleyes:

93-02 V6 = 195ºF Thermostat
93-97 LT1 = 195ºF Thermostat
98-02 LS1 = 180ºF Thermostat

[chas]

check any parts catalog (napaonline, advance auto et al) -- the v6 firebird is listed to get a 195F thermostat.

the owner's manual (that lists 180) is a misprint (or rather v8 specific really).

[chas]

Originally posted by camaroincal:
Rally Red said "check your coolant level for one... dex is kind of weird especially when you first put it in. the car CAN get up to 210, but like you, my car never rose above 180-190 until recently...

actually since you didnt put the coolant into the engine you probably have no idea of the mixture ratio. 50/50 is typical but a little more water would get better heat transfer.

what thermostat do you have? the engine was torn down, if it was me doing the work i would throw in a new thermostat just because i have it drained. did you get a new thermostat at 195?

and lastly the gage on your dash is not the most accurate instrument ever made.

[camaroincal]

Originally posted by Jason McCallister:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaroincal:
HAHA Jason. I bet you're gonna feel dumb when you click on this link.....

http://engine.firebirdv6.com/ Go ahead and scroll down to Thermostats. Get your facts straight before you act like you're so smart.

That incorrect information has been addressed to site admins in the past but yet the page has not been updated. :( Please do not make me refer to GM documentation to prove it. :rolleyes:

93-02 V6 = 195ºF Thermostat
93-97 LT1 = 195ºF Thermostat
98-02 LS1 = 180ºF Thermostat </font>[/QUOTE]Well, in that case I'm sorry. But that's not my fault.

[camaroincal]

Originally posted by chas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaroincal:
Rally Red said "check your coolant level for one... dex is kind of weird especially when you first put it in. the car CAN get up to 210, but like you, my car never rose above 180-190 until recently...

actually since you didnt put the coolant into the engine you probably have no idea of the mixture ratio. 50/50 is typical but a little more water would get better heat transfer.

what thermostat do you have? the engine was torn down, if it was me doing the work i would throw in a new thermostat just because i have it drained. did you get a new thermostat at 195?

and lastly the gage on your dash is not the most accurate instrument ever made. </font>[/QUOTE]Ya it's a new 195 thermo. And I realize the gauge in the dash isn't totally accurate.

[jc Kyle]

Just a couple things to point out.. the gauge you see next to your speedo is incredibly inaccurate. The only true way to see temp. and temp. changes is to have an exact device (forget the name of it). That tells you the temp.. why do you think the needle is always in the middle.. it moves and eighth of an inch for a 30 degree temp. change! Don't worry about that it's cool

And btw.. with the cold weather, ice, salt on the streets up in canada.. i have no doubt that it's much harder on the engine than it is here..

[camaroincal]

Well ...my temp guage is definately not always in the middle. I have a 97 and I think that you guys saying that the temp always being 210 have the "dummy gauge" I've been raeding about. I guess GM customers were worried about the temp gauge fluctuating so much that they installed one that just stays put at 210? It makes sense since you have a 99, but I thought they only did this on the V8's.

Also, my car is originally from Los Angeles and 73,000 were put on it in 3-4 years. Also it's very HOT and smoggy with lots of traffic. MUCH worse condition's for this car imo....And if you think about it, it prolly had overheated atleast a few times adding to the early departure of my head gaskets/ cracked head.

[jc Kyle]

ah yeah.. The L.A. thing is true.. I wonder what's worse.. could weather with snow and salt.. or hot stop and go L.A. driving.. shiit both can't be good!