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    ok guys check out my page, now out of all that i'm getting the fuel pump, cam, p&p of the heads,upping from a 75 to a 100 shot, 3.73 and the posi done this week. i raced my b/f's mustang gt yesterday and i had him on the start but then soon as i went into second i couldn't catch up. my car will just fall flat on her face. what can i do now?
    WAWA-A-HOLIC


  • #2
    you have all that stuff done or you are getting that done?

    If you had that all done maybe you should get a tuner to tune for all the changes. Cam and heads pretty much need a good tune to maximize them.

    What cam did/are you getting?
    http://www.bowtiev6.com/

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    • #3
      well I checked your site and noticed that you have HP tuners. So I guess you have that covered, maybe work on the tuning some more to work better with the mods.

      Or maybe your nitrous bottle ran out...
      http://www.bowtiev6.com/

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      • #4
        Look for Knock Retard. That will kill your power every time. Use HP Tuners and see if it is KR.
        2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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        • #5
          KR?
          WAWA-A-HOLIC

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          • #6
            KR= Knock Retard, so how much you are getting with the HP Tuners
            http://www.bowtiev6.com/

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            • #7
              Here is what you need to do. Log a "Run" with a few wide open throttle sections. Now save the scan and then open the log file. Bring up the histogram and click on the Knock Retard tab. Now right click on the table and choose "Max Value". If any values are over zero, you have KR.

              What to do about it if you do is a whole other probelem. But for starters, just find out if you have it.
              2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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              • #8
                k soon as i get my car back which is in a week i will have to check that out is there anything else that can cause this to happen. it has always happened
                WAWA-A-HOLIC

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                • #9
                  There are lots of things it could be but start with the most likely. Once you get a log, send it to me and I will check it out.

                  arthansen@cfl.rr.com

                  p.s. Bring that car down to Orlando...nothing I like better then getting my a$$ beat by a chick!
                  ;)
                  2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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                  • #10
                    heheh i would love to kick your a$$ heheh!! but that is kinda a far way. going to be in nc this july i think should met me there. and i can hand it to you on a plate [img]graemlins/banana.gif[/img]
                    WAWA-A-HOLIC

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                    • #11
                      did u put in larger injectors? I doubt the stock 22's are flowing enough with your upgrades.
                      00 GTP<br />98 Camaro v6<br />See, told ya I\'d be rockin another 4th gen :D<br />V6 & V8 tuning available at <a href=\"http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/\" target=\"_blank\">http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/</a>

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by foff667:
                        did u put in larger injectors? I doubt the stock 22's are flowing enough with your upgrades.
                        Could be a very good possiblity with her having a cam and P&P stuff. Forgot about those
                        http://www.bowtiev6.com/

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                        • #13
                          hey guys i just found out today that i have been running very lean so hopefully the new injectors fix it! had to get the 42.5 ones they were my only option. since i had to get them next day delvi. since the car is going to be finished thusday afternoon. and why rip everything out again right! i'll let you guys know!
                          WAWA-A-HOLIC

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                          • #14
                            the injectors wont necessarily fix it. You need to tune the computer. Especially before you even attempt to spray it with the new injectors.
                            <b>Black</b> 1998 Pontiac <i>Firebird</i> A-4 swap<br />271.4rwhp/259.4rwtq NA<br />13.30@102.44 <br /><a href=\"http://www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98\" target=\"_blank\">www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98</a>

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                            • #15
                              trust me i know. i should get it back thursday night and i will drive straight home to tune it. then go out and strech my legs [img]graemlins/banana.gif[/img]
                              WAWA-A-HOLIC

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