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    The topic says it all. Me and my friend installed the SLP rocker package today, well Saturday. I could lie to you and say it only took a few hours but, I'll keep it honest. It took around 7 hours. Although knock an hour and half off for lunch. I have plenty of pics that I took with my friends digital camera. Just need to fix me up a website to add them to. :rolleyes: I took around 60 pics. hehe. Welp, I guess you all want to know how the install went and what happened after I turned the key. Well, I'll try to keep it short and more than likely I will leave something out, so look over me, I'm tired. ;)

    Well, the install was going along well(having air powered tools helps a lot). We first took the right valve cover off. Did not take long to take all the stuff off around it(coil pack, etc. etc.) So, we then went to the left side. All was going well until we hit the only thing that was keeping us from getting the left valve cover off. The damn engine bracket(black thing in the left back of the motor, used to pull the engine out[simple terms]). Well, the hard part about the bracket was the bolt was in the back right at the firewall. It's insane trying to get to the thing. So, it was time to use one of the best tools one can grab to fix anything. Hammer and a pry bar. :D Yeap, since we could not get the damn thing out of there we decided to knock it back a little or bend it a little just enough so we could get to the last bolt that was keeping us from getting the left valve cover off. And it WORKED. That one little bracket had the install on hold for a good hour. It sucked. OK, back to the install(I'm still trying to get over my anger towards that bracket, sorry). Well after we took off all the old rockers we installed the new ones. It works great with two people. One can take the old ones off and the other can start to install the others. After fitting the rockers on the right side(have not tightened them yet, just have them on enough to where they will move, ohh, we also have the arms installed as well at this point) we then turned the crank pulley to get each of the rockers at top dead center(for those who bought the SLP rockers, go with the specs on the blue sheet of paper that came with the rockers(torque specs). I hardly even used the white paper that came with my rockers. Ok, after we finished tighting all the new rockers down on the right side, we then went to the left side and did the same. (Ohh before I forget, it is also wise to oil or lube up the rockers when you install them, if I'm not mistaken it says that on the blue paper also). We then reinstalled everything(valve covers, etc. etc.).

    Now it was time to turn the key and start the car. Welp, started the car and the car starts but, this awful clanking noise is coming from the engine bay. I was like ohhh great. Well, let the car run for about 20 to 30 seconds and turned the car off. Decided to try it again about a minute later. Started the car up and the sound was still coming from the engine bay, but it was not as loud. I let the car run for about a minute to a minute half, then turned the car off again. I was fearing the something had went wrong in the install. Welp, gave it one last try after about 3 or 4 minutes of thinking everything over. Started the car up and the sound was there for about 10 seconds and then went away. I was like yesssss. But, I could still hear a clicking noise from the engine. I was about sure it was the injectors but, I had to make sure. So I used a long metal pipe and used it to listen to parts of the engine. I could hear nothing coming from the valve covers so I went up to the injectors and I found my clicking noise. Welp, time for the test run. What I have been waiting for ever since I bought them. Pulled out and drove slow for about mile(speed limit and did not floor it). Welp, went several miles down the road shifting it to a next lower gear and I could feel extra power. But, I had to pull from a dead stop to see just how fast the car could speed up to 65. All I can say is [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img] The car picks up like crazy. They were not kidding when they said at 3000 rpms is when the power starts(for me it was a little earlier around 2500 to 3000 rpms, it may have something to do with the modes that I have??). I could go into a little more detail about how it pulls, but I'll keep it short and simple just saying it's a mod that you can really feel with no questions asked. My friend was with me during the test run, and when I pulled out from a dead stop and then hit 2nd gear we both where pressed firmly back into our seats. ;) He was also shocked from the power this things gave my car.

    There is one problem I am having though. Well, may not be a problem just wondering about something. Well, everything is running fine since the install. I drove back home witch is about 70 to 80 miles and my car has not given a SES light nor a check engine light. The rpms are steady, oil pressure is steady pretty much everything is A ok. The only thing that is strange is while I'm driving when I press on the gas I hear a clicking sound(keep in mind I have my window down). I can barley hear the clicking noise when I'm not pressing the gas and I do mean barley(meaning really really having to lesson for it). Now when I press the gas I can really hear the clicking noise. Now hears the strange part. If I just rev my engine I cannot hear the clicking noise. Only when my car is being driven and when pushing on the gas can I hear the clicking noise. Me and my friend are thinking that it's the injectors. It does sound like the sound that comes from the injectors just louder. Witch would make since in a way. The rockers are allowing more air to come into the engine so that means the computer is going to add more fuel. So, I'm guessing that where the computer is adding more fuel this would explain the clicking noise I'm hearing??? If anyone has any ideas on this please comment on it. Also, for those that have installed new cams in your car or other internal power adders like the SSM package, are your injectors clicking louder??

    Well, I guess that'z it. If you need more details on the install just let me know. Or if you have any questions feel free to ask. I know I did not go over everything, I'm just really tired right now. I hope all of this made since, it's getting late and I've been up since around 8am Saturday morning. Ohh, my final rating on the SLP rocker arms is [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] and a [img]graemlins/fluffy.gif[/img]
    2000 V6 Camaro(bought brand new)
    5 speed
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  • #2
    Thank you for the update!!!
    I can't wait to do mine!
    I'll be complimenting mine with LS6 springs and titanium retainers.
    If 10 hp was gained on a relatively stock engine I wonder what someone like me would see???
    I can't wait to see the pic's also

    Thanks man!!
    Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
    nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
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    • #3
      Congrats on the install. I was going to get them, but they wont work with a cam, so I dont think that the SLP pakcage is in my future. But like I said Congrats. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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      • #4
        yeah that bolt on the back was a PITA!!! It took us about an hour to get off.. we ended up cutting a 13 milli hand wrench in half and sticking a breaker bar on the end of it.. we got it off without "abusing" the car.. just take your time and think about it..

        the whole install took use about 5-6 hours with myself and a friend working pretty hard non stop.. and taking a few pictures.. ohh yeah.. and we are both pretty stupid and never done any work of this nature before (atleast i am honest).. so.. i dont think anyone shuld be intimidated by this install..

        my car had a slight ticking noise also at first.. however it went away after the first restart.. and now everything is fine.. I think you may just be beaing a little over critical of the noise..

        later
        ~Bill

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        • #5
          I would suggest going back and checking the tightness of the rocker bolts. It is possible that is why you have a ticking sound.
          Keith - 99 'maro - White M5 - bumpstick and boltons - 13.65 @ 101 N/A
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          • #6
            yeah, we just bent the bracket back a little. No harm to the car was done. [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm still hearing the ticking noise a little. Not at idle(even when I press the gas at idle[out of gear] it does not do it) just when I have my window down driving down the road then when I press on the gas I can hear a ticking noise. I think it's the injectors just pushing out more gas?? If it was anything else I would think I would hear the sound all the time. Also, did you hear a difference in your exhaust. Mine got a little deeper and you can hear the extra lift. I love the sound. :D It's not like a major cam upgrade but, you can sure hear the extra lift. I give it the best mod I've done. [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img]

            [ April 20, 2003: Message edited by: Guardiannknight ]</p>
            2000 V6 Camaro(bought brand new)
            5 speed
            Project: Unreal
            Several Mods..:naughty:plus Nitrous=WEEeee:banana:

            2007 Suzuki GS500F :D

            Daily driver
            2007 Chevy Aveo 5
            Mods K&N air filter:excited:
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            • #7
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Seppo Kaitainen:
              I would suggest going back and checking the tightness of the rocker bolts. It is possible that is why you have a ticking sound.<hr></blockquote>

              We checked the torque on the rockers at least 4 times. all where snug. and we used a torque wrench and placed each at 25 ftlbs. Tomorrow I'm going to use a tool that my dad has that allows you to listen to just a section of the motor to listen for sounds coming from the motor(forget the name of it). So hopefully I will be able to pin point the noise better.
              2000 V6 Camaro(bought brand new)
              5 speed
              Project: Unreal
              Several Mods..:naughty:plus Nitrous=WEEeee:banana:

              2007 Suzuki GS500F :D

              Daily driver
              2007 Chevy Aveo 5
              Mods K&N air filter:excited:
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              • #8
                I've always had a kind of ticking on my car, windows rolled up or not. it doesn't seem fast enough to be injectors tho. If you can hear individual ticks, it's not injectors. I might hazzard a guess and say....EGR valve? Possibly a "heat extractor" type deal that I hear is on all our cars, or maybe just firebird, but i have no solid evidence of this.
                2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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                • #9
                  the ticking your hearing is most likely "lifter slap". Basically you didnt set the proper valve lash when you put the rockers on. you said you torqued em down right? well unless u spun the motor over by hand each time, you see, soem of the lifters were compressed as they were lifting the valve, thsu when you started the car, they loosened up when the lifter became uncompressed? Following what im saying here? kinda hard to explain. basically just make sure when you tighten them down that the valve is NOT open.
                  1979 Z28 Camaro, 1 of 10,000 Factory 4 speeds. <br />1994 Camaro Sport Coupe, M5<br />Best ET: 15.31@91.5 (25 hp NOS)

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                  • #10
                    When we tightened the rockers down, we had each on top dead center. We made sure of this. Then after we had all of them installed in torqued down. we went back over them several times and made sure each was torqued down at 25 ftlbs. That's why I'm confused about the sound. It may be my egr value. I was thinking that earlier. We did have to take the EGR off for the install. So I'm thinking where the EGR hooks to the manifold, I may want to check and see if the bolt is tight. I may be getting a leak around it. That would explain the clicking noise when I press on the gas while driving. I'm hopefully I'll find the problem when I listen to parts of the engine.
                    2000 V6 Camaro(bought brand new)
                    5 speed
                    Project: Unreal
                    Several Mods..:naughty:plus Nitrous=WEEeee:banana:

                    2007 Suzuki GS500F :D

                    Daily driver
                    2007 Chevy Aveo 5
                    Mods K&N air filter:excited:
                    www.guardiansworlds.com

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                    • #11
                      I dident hear any real noticible change in exhaust tone/sound after my install..

                      check your egr.. its also possible that your air check valves are making the ticking noise..

                      get yourself a sethiscope and give everything a good listin'.. sounds crazy.. but it helps sometimes..

                      I dunno,
                      ~Bill

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                      • #12
                        That ticking noise sounds just like a leaky EGR tube, I bet that is your problem, it can be loud as heck when it leaks, and only under load when you mash the gas.

                        25ft lbs?

                        Stock TQ specs for the rockers are 11 ft lbs and then a 90 degree turn on the wrench.
                        Michael Huff<br />92 RS, 98 V6, 97 SS, 00 Z28 <br /> <a href=\"http://www.carolinafbodyclub.com/\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.carolinafbodyclub.com/</a>

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                        • #13
                          Yep stock TQ specs are 11 lbs i just finished installing cam twice pretty much not to long ago. You need to make sure each Cly. Is top dead center and TQ to 11 lbs and the turn an additonal 90 degrees
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                          • #14
                            Yeah the white paper that came with the rockers said 11ftlbs and 90degree but, the blue paper said 25ftlbs. So, we checked the old rockers before we took them off and they where at 25ftlbs on the dot. So, we decided to go with the blue paper that came with the rockers and go with the 25ftlbs since the old rockers was at 25ftlbs. I was not able to check anything today. been busy. I don't hear the sound with my windows up, but I do think it is my EGR. cause it only makes the noise when I press the gas while driving. I'm going to try and tighten the EGR up and see what happens. Thanks for the help, keep the replies coming. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
                            2000 V6 Camaro(bought brand new)
                            5 speed
                            Project: Unreal
                            Several Mods..:naughty:plus Nitrous=WEEeee:banana:

                            2007 Suzuki GS500F :D

                            Daily driver
                            2007 Chevy Aveo 5
                            Mods K&N air filter:excited:
                            www.guardiansworlds.com

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                            • #15
                              Just a litle tid-bit, i spent the entire weekend taking off my Plentum, lower inatke manifold, and both valve covers off (had a COUPLE leaks :rolleyes: ) and i did the same thing with that D@mn engine bracket, double check and make sure that it isnt rubbing on the heater hoses that are back there. If it is either bend it back or stick a piece of rubber back there to keep it from rubbing a hole in that hose.

                              Dont roller rockers make more noise than standard rockers ?? My mom has a 2500 HD Silverado with roller rockers and it made a ticking noise sometimes also, we took it to the dealership while it was under warranty and they said that its just the roller rockers not to worry about it :rolleyes: ...
                              But congrats with the install!!
                              AIS 2 OHH the memories... Great times and putting names with faces.<p>From \"interesting\" hooters waitress(Did you guys FLY ? ) to pissing BMW owners off on the ride home. To ending up in Philidelphia and USING (hahaha) an ice machine. I had a BLAST.<p>Thanxs to all that showed up!!

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