3.8 to 3.8

[96Blackf-bird]

My bird is getting some miles on her and I just had a friend smash his 99 bird into a tree(drunk driving is bad news). Well my question is how much work would it be to switch the two engines, seeing how his is a 5-Speed and mine is an automatic, his is a 99, and mine is a 96. He also has the Y-87 performance package what kind of work does that entale me to do.

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

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not a really technical question.. its a direct swap..

drop both motors/trannys

unbolt trannys

switch...

reinstall..

y87 makes no difference..

only thing i can think of that may be a little differenct is some of the weatherpack connectors for some of the sensors / electronics.. but.. you shuld be able to handle that.. considering you have a doner car right there..

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

if you got his wring harnes and gas pedal stuff and PCM then steal his rear end for the 3.42 and disk brakes should be a good upgrade

[pontiac nino]

gonna have to change flywheels, from stick to auto, i think the 95' throttle body is angled if im not mistaken, and thats it not too sure really

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

Originally posted by pontiac nino:
gonna have to change flywheels, from stick to auto, i think the 95' throttle body is angled if im not mistaken, and thats it not too sure really

he has the whole car at his diposal.. its all there..

IMO its gunna be a peice of cake..

i would replace everything since you have it..
engine, pcm, ignition and wireing harness..

[pontiac nino]

id switch to stick just for S&G [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

manual is where it at..

[96Blackf-bird]

Yeah those were my sentaments exactly, my saving grace is he didn't have full coverage, so now it's just an undrivable car sitting in his driveway. Those disk brakes...I suppose I could steal the lines and linkage and all. That would be much easier than ripping out my drums and buying a disk brake kit. I'll keep you all up to speed on what happens

[John_D.]

I don't think your body wiring harness is going to mate up to the '99. So you'll probably have to do some rewiring if you upgrade the pcm and engine harness. Look over the wiring pinouts on this site and see what you think will be involved.

You will need a manual pcm if you switch over to a manual transmission. The easiest swap would be to find a '96 manual pcm. Then no rewiring.... Just keep your angled intake and cable throttle body.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by John_D.:
I don't think your body wiring harness is going to mate up to the '99. So you'll probably have to do some rewiring if you upgrade the pcm and engine harness. Look over the wiring pinouts on this site and see what you think will be involved.

You will need a manual pcm if you switch over to a manual transmission. The easiest swap would be to find a '96 manual pcm. Then no rewiring.... Just keep your angled intake and cable throttle body.

true dat theres guy that put a 2000 motor in his 1997 and is using the 1997 pcm i think hes even using the 2000 TB some how i would have to talk to him again

[Coriya71]

I have a 2000 motor in my '95 1/2 (as can be seen in my sig). I don't know about the tranny part, but I left in all my wiring stock because I didn't want problems with CA emissions. All I switched was the upper intake and TB, knock sensors, exhaust manifolds, coolant temp sensor, and fuel rail w/injectors(it was easier than just the injectors). Everything else is plug and play.

[02PewterFirebird]

If you are going from an auto to manual engine, where you gonna put the clutch? You'll have to probably buy a new brake pedal also since the one with the auto is very wide.

[Wicked 3800 V6]

Have you done anything like this before? If not, enjoy getting in deeeeep adventure. Bummer about your buddy's car.