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ive got ~1000 in my account, and ive got about 700 i can acutally spend on parts. shoudl i get a set or RK headers + comp cams 212/212 cam or a 300 stall TC. they are both going to happen, i just need to know which would be better to do first. btw as of this morning im A4/3.42
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98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited<br /><br /><br />MODS:<br />180* t-stat, K&N FIPK, mopar ECU,<br />mike leach long tube headers+3\" y-pipe, 3\" all the way out flowmaster 50 series, mopar magnum 2bbl m1 intake manifold, APS 52mm throttle body, powerslots, 2 JL 10w3\'s -
A bigger cam with the stock TC might not work so good. I would say do the TC first. -
I agree with pgriffith. The verdict is still out on the cams. Everybody has problems.<b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by AMinor65:
I agree with pgriffith. The verdict is still out on the cams. Everybody has problems.<hr></blockquote>
Untrue, Min installed a comp 206/212 per my recommendation and has nothing but complete success with it even running nitrous.2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
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I havent had any problems with my cam either. I have the 206/2121995 black firebird,t-tops,3.4L M5 Comp cam,gutted cat,Cold Air,80 series flowmaster,limited slip rear end with 3.42 gear, Hurst Billet Plus, 17\" American Racin Torq Thrust IIComment
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I was just think TC because the cam will loose more low end power and may have to be a little trickier to take off. IF its a mild cam I would say do the cam. But who wants mild. Most aggressive cams will require somewhat larger TC than stock.Comment
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What good is +5hp @ 5000RPM when you have to sacrifice the low end to get it?
I say go mild. I dont consider 206/212 mild either for our engines. Its a very good cam, a strong cam, and tends to make as much power as possible throughout the USEABLE powerband right up to 6000RPM. If you peak out at 7000RPM, what good is that?2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
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how much power/quarter help did you all get out of the 206/212 (especially if uve got headers)? is that a comp cams regrind? what do you mean tricky to launch, i think with the new gears, that the TC can wait a month or two, plus im not takin it to the track yet, this would be a street thing for now....98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited<br /><br /><br />MODS:<br />180* t-stat, K&N FIPK, mopar ECU,<br />mike leach long tube headers+3\" y-pipe, 3\" all the way out flowmaster 50 series, mopar magnum 2bbl m1 intake manifold, APS 52mm throttle body, powerslots, 2 JL 10w3\'sComment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Tri-Flo 99:
how much power/quarter help did you all get out of the 206/212 (especially if uve got headers)? is that a comp cams regrind? what do you mean tricky to launch, i think with the new gears, that the TC can wait a month or two, plus im not takin it to the track yet, this would be a street thing for now....<hr></blockquote>
If you get a bigger cam its gonna move the power curve up. If you get too big of a cam it will move it up too far and you will not be able to take off in a automatic. But if you had a higher stall TC then it wouldnt matter. IF you get a big cam you always loose some drivability just because it moves the power up.
ITs not a gregrind it is a new core.
Does MIN run the stock TC?Comment
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yeah i do<b>Mods :</b><br />NX Nitrous Kit 125 shot<br />Walboro 255 In Tank Fuel Pump <br />Whisper Lid<br />K & N Filter<br />BMR STB<br />BMR SFC\'s<br />Comp Cams Camshaft<br />Port\\polished heads & intake<br />CIA Headers<br />3 Inch Cat<br />Transgo Shift Kit<br />Corvette Servo<br />180° Stat<br />Flowmaster w/ quad tipsComment
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Okay, maybe everybody don't have problems. But, most of the 3.8's on this board with the more agressive cams do. Depends on what you want, I guess. I'm thinking dependibility.
Dude, let some more people do the cam thing before you do. I like them too, but sheesh. Gotta cross your fingers, and hope you don't throw a code. I'd do high ratio rockers before that. Go read some posts on cams. See what I mean.
Dominic did bring up a promising one though a couple of weeks ago. Here's the link.
http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/pro...tition_cam.htm
It's the VS cam. I'm getting one as soon as his is installed. :D<b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49Comment
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