headers cam or TC?

[Tri-Flo 99]

ive got ~1000 in my account, and ive got about 700 i can acutally spend on parts. shoudl i get a set or RK headers + comp cams 212/212 cam or a 300 stall TC. they are both going to happen, i just need to know which would be better to do first. btw as of this morning im A4/3.42

[pgriffith]

A bigger cam with the stock TC might not work so good. I would say do the TC first.

[AMinor65]

I agree with pgriffith. The verdict is still out on the cams. Everybody has problems.

[Dominic]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by AMinor65:
I agree with pgriffith. The verdict is still out on the cams. Everybody has problems.<hr></blockquote>

Untrue, Min installed a comp 206/212 per my recommendation and has nothing but complete success with it even running nitrous.

[Fear_Factor]

I havent had any problems with my cam either. I have the 206/212

[pgriffith]

I was just think TC because the cam will loose more low end power and may have to be a little trickier to take off. IF its a mild cam I would say do the cam. But who wants mild. Most aggressive cams will require somewhat larger TC than stock.

[Dominic]

What good is +5hp @ 5000RPM when you have to sacrifice the low end to get it?

I say go mild. I dont consider 206/212 mild either for our engines. Its a very good cam, a strong cam, and tends to make as much power as possible throughout the USEABLE powerband right up to 6000RPM. If you peak out at 7000RPM, what good is that?

[Tri-Flo 99]

how much power/quarter help did you all get out of the 206/212 (especially if uve got headers)? is that a comp cams regrind? what do you mean tricky to launch, i think with the new gears, that the TC can wait a month or two, plus im not takin it to the track yet, this would be a street thing for now....

[pgriffith]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Tri-Flo 99:
how much power/quarter help did you all get out of the 206/212 (especially if uve got headers)? is that a comp cams regrind? what do you mean tricky to launch, i think with the new gears, that the TC can wait a month or two, plus im not takin it to the track yet, this would be a street thing for now....<hr></blockquote>


If you get a bigger cam its gonna move the power curve up. If you get too big of a cam it will move it up too far and you will not be able to take off in a automatic. But if you had a higher stall TC then it wouldnt matter. IF you get a big cam you always loose some drivability just because it moves the power up.

ITs not a gregrind it is a new core.

Does MIN run the stock TC?

[Min]

yeah i do

[AMinor65]

Okay, maybe everybody don't have problems. But, most of the 3.8's on this board with the more agressive cams do. Depends on what you want, I guess. I'm thinking dependibility.

Dude, let some more people do the cam thing before you do. I like them too, but sheesh. Gotta cross your fingers, and hope you don't throw a code. I'd do high ratio rockers before that. Go read some posts on cams. See what I mean.

Dominic did bring up a promising one though a couple of weeks ago. Here's the link.

http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/pro...tition_cam.htm

It's the VS cam. I'm getting one as soon as his is installed. :D