Why is it that Regrind cams can get much higher specs then a comp core grind. Comp told me they dont fo anything over 212 but supersix will grind a 220/228 that is a mean cam with .510 lift. Does that mean you can get more aggresive with a regrind and get much higher specs. I really want a cam and im tired of waiting for comp to get theie cores in. Please let me know what the big deal is between a regrind and a comp core grind. Thanks
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COMP has nothing off the shelf for 212.. you can custom your own grind though.
This is the list I pick from:
http://www.compcams.com/catalog/230.html
In the first section. My lobes are 3312.
I HIGHLY recomend against a regrind with big duration... Your ramps will be so slooooow. :( You will be missing out on a lot of HP that you can only get from a core grind.. COMP ramps are fasssst!! [img]smile.gif[/img]Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP
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To answer your question, with a regrind, they litterally grind down the base circle to give it more lift and then can also acheive higher duration specs. I was listening to the engines running these "monster" cams and unless you have a monster torque converter, I would personally stay away from an automatic tranny. There wouldn't be a lot of vacuum signal and there could be an engine stalling problem. I personally an only talking from old school engine experience though, and I really don't have any experience with our computer V6s.1995 Firebird 3.8 A4, 140,000 miles and going strong<br />Basically Stock, college=poor <p>Junior Mechanical Engineering Student: Milwaukee School of Engineering; Cpl, MN Army National Guard...just got promoted :)
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Well i have a 3000 stall converter at the moment and it will be a 3500 within about 3 or 4 months<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers
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Magnus, I know that you run a 212/212 112LS but on that Chart, how do you find out the exhuast duration, or is it identical to the intake for all those grinds.
I plan on going with a 212/218 112LS and I was wondering how to pick that out of the chart.
Thanks and please forgive me for my ignorance1996 Silver Camaro, Y87, M5, cammed..<br />N/A Best Time: 14.012 @ 98.59<br />195 rwhp / 233 ft-lbs b/f heads/cam<br />Check out my site <a href=\"http://silver3800.cz28.com/\" target=\"_blank\">http://silver3800.cz28.com/</a>
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thats a chart of lobes.. you pick which you want for intake and which you want for exhaust.Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP
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Oh, well that makes much more sence. thanks1996 Silver Camaro, Y87, M5, cammed..<br />N/A Best Time: 14.012 @ 98.59<br />195 rwhp / 233 ft-lbs b/f heads/cam<br />Check out my site <a href=\"http://silver3800.cz28.com/\" target=\"_blank\">http://silver3800.cz28.com/</a>
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I just got a email from comp cams saying they have the cores i believe. here is the messege i recieved:
Kris,
we do have a core for this engine it is available in custom grinds only the
cost would be 304.14 , the wait on custom grinds is 2-3 weeks at this time.
this is from a tech at comp cams. So maybe they do have the cores in stock if so i am purchaseing one next week i have been weaiting for quite a while now i need a mean aggressive cam spec that will alow me to sit at idel and not stall out through some ideas at me. I want something that nobody has at the moment and i want a split cam with a choppy idel one u can tell has a cam in it.<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slacker69:
I just got a email from comp cams saying they have the cores i believe. here is the messege i recieved:
Kris,
we do have a core for this engine it is available in custom grinds only the
cost would be 304.14 , the wait on custom grinds is 2-3 weeks at this time.
this is from a tech at comp cams. So maybe they do have the cores in stock if so i am purchaseing one next week i have been weaiting for quite a while now i need a mean aggressive cam spec that will alow me to sit at idel and not stall out through some ideas at me. I want something that nobody has at the moment and i want a split cam with a choppy idel one u can tell has a cam in it.<hr></blockquote>
Dont do it! They gave me the same story so I ordered the cam. They ended up sending me the wrong cam. You should call back and ask for a manager or supervisor. They will give you the real 411. Im getting a CROWER regrind directly through CROWER for $125. I am thinking I will do 214/214 500/500 112LS 108IC. They said with overnight delivery they can get me my cam by Fri or sat. I really need my cam fast so this is the only thing for me right now. I am not waiting 4 weeks.
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Preston, how about throwing the stocker back in for a while and then getting a COMP later?
A COMP i think should be worth 20hp across the board over a regrind and would idle smoother.
A cam only swap could be done in 8 hours I think. Just last week I tore down my engine in 1.5 hours leaving the heads and front cover on with zach's help. half an hour more and I could have had the front cover off.
Just a thought.Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
Preston, how about throwing the stocker back in for a while and then getting a COMP later?
A COMP i think should be worth 20hp across the board over a regrind and would idle smoother.
A cam only swap could be done in 8 hours I think. Just last week I tore down my engine in 1.5 hours leaving the heads and front cover on with zach's help. half an hour more and I could have had the front cover off.
Just a thought.<hr></blockquote>
I dont know what to do. My mechanic is charging me labor for this either way. He already has the stock cam out. So I might as well spend the extra $125 for a cam now and If I dont like it I can get a compcam later. There is no way I can wait 4 weeks for another cam. I have waited long enough.
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Understandable.Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP
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hey man let me know how that $125 regrind goes and I buy buy one as well untill COMP cams gets theres in that way i will get the oppertunity to get to try two cam specs and i know i could resell the regrind on the messege board if i do get a compcams custom core<b><a href=\"http://www.sick-sixx.com\" target=\"_blank\">SICK-SIXX MEMBER</a></b><br />NA 14.345 with a 1.863 60 foot<br />Nitrous 13.03@99.5 with a 1.63 60 foot<br /><br />2000 Camaro 3.8L A4: USE TO HAVE Comp Cam 210/220 .535/.547 113lsa 111 I/C, Port and Polished Heads, NX Wet Kit 100 Shot, CPRA made by CP, RK Sport Headers
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