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  • Reprogramming 3.4 PCM

    I'm new to the forum. Saw a post last week about reprogramming the PCM or using a Haltech. The conclusion was that the Haltech wouldn't work.

    It seems that, as far as the aftermarket is concerned, the 3.4 is the redhaired stepchild at the GM picnic. Not much out their.

    However, there are a bunch of clever, cheap, hardcore, digithead enthusiasts that started designing their own EFI system at:

    http://www.diy-efi.org

    This same bunch then created another web site and BBS forum dedicated exclusively to GM only based ECUs, PCMs etc at:

    http://www.diy-efi.org/gmecm/

    From the little bit of research I've done thus far I learned that our PCM is a P66 FLASH programmable PCM. There is another awesome site called TunerCat at:

    http://www.tunercat.com

    These guys have Software that you can use to copy your PCM's program to your PC, view it, edit it, compare it to other efi programs, save it and send it back up to the PCM.

    The real technical obstacle is figuring out what all the code in the PCM actually does. The TunerCat site has a list of all the ECU applications that they have definitively mapped. No suprise, the map for small block V8s were a priority. But they have also mapped 2.8s, 3.1's, 3800s etc Buick Grand Nationals etc. They haven't cracked the 3.4 PCM yet, but they do have alot of utility programs that a technically savy person could use to deconstruct the code and figure out what each part of the code is responsible for.

    They talk about P3 & P4 ECUs which require a removable prom, a supply of blank e-proms, a prom burner etc.. but None of that applies to the 3.4 PCM because it is FLASH programmable. As far as Hardware goes, we need two things:

    1) An ALDL to RS232 cable and

    2) an interface adapter

    (3) and, of course a computer ...

    You can find a list of suppliers for these bits on the TunerCat site under the links section. You could also make your own bits if you search the diy-efi site for instructions. The diy site (& the GM-ecm part) also has a lot of good background info on how to program ECUs and how the program file is arranged.

    Anyway here is a link to a site to get the OBD1 style ALDL to RS232 cable and the interface:

    http://www.ttspowersystems.com/

    Seems that since many here share the same interest, that we could crack this thing.

    Could you imagine re-writing the stock PCM to handle fueling, timing etc for boosted applications? Hmmmmmmm......

    Regards,

    Brian Corrigan

  • #2
    Cool great job....

    hehe... this could possibly be the best first post a newbie ever had. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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    • #3
      Hi Brian... welcome to the board.

      DIY-EFI is great, however its mostly ECM based.

      A great PCM based website is http://pcm.dxsoftware.com/forum [img]smile.gif[/img]
      Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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      • #4
        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MustangEater8251:
        Cool great job....

        hehe... this could possibly be the best first post a newbie ever had. [img]smile.gif[/img]
        <hr></blockquote>

        Hahhaa you're totally right. Great post bud. I don't know if anyone said that the Haltech computer wouldn't work. At least I didn't read anything about that. But anyways, I wish we could get some work done on this PCM. I'll check out the links you posted and hopefully we can get something rollin'.

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        • #5
          From what I read about the haltech... is our cars woudl basically be too advance.

          # 1 thing I noticed was ignition system they all looked distributor based. And since we are distributorless... causes soem issues.

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          • #6
            I have a hypertech programmer for the 3.4, could I use the cable that comes w/ that? It goes from ALDL to I think rs232. But I doubt it has the right circuitry to make the conversion to go to a computer's serial port. Anyone know?
            Wayne<br />94 5 spd Camaro<br />Turbo/Intercooled<br /> <a href=\"http://www.geocities.com/Mustang732/cars.htm\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.geocities.com/Mustang732/cars.htm</a> <br /><br />Megasquirt Stand-alone EFI controling fuel/spark w/ wideband:<br /> <a href=\"http://home.att.net/~basic-4/2ndMegasquirt/NewMegasquirt.html\" target=\"_blank\">http://home.att.net/~basic-4/2ndMegasquirt/NewMegasquirt.html</a>

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            • #7
              ill disagree that the hal-tech doesnt work.

              this is why:

              You can use the E6k or E11 to control fuel and ignition. The price sheet is
              attached.

              Haltech USA
              PH 972-831-9800
              Fax 972-831-9802
              www.haltech.com


              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "Russell Nield" &lt;russell@adwire.com&gt;
              To: &lt;sales-us@haltech.com&gt;
              Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:18 PM
              Subject: got anything that would work with...


              &gt; my 1994 3.4L V6 Chevrolet Camaro?
              &gt;
              &gt; Its a manual transmission car too. OBD I. i've been looking for a
              computer
              &gt; i could program myself, and you guys popped up somehow on my radar. hope
              &gt; you have something i can use.
              &gt;
              &gt; thanks
              &gt;
              &gt; Russell K. Nield
              &gt;
              &gt; p.s. quote on price / availability..etc.etc..?
              &gt;

              basically what it boils down to, is what happens with any standalone unit. the spark/fuel are driven by the aftermarket unit, while the guages and stuff are driven by the normal ECM.

              -R

              hybrid - \'\'hI-br&d - The offspring of a cross between species.
              Co-Founder West Coast F-Bodies
              West Coast F-Bodies Car Club - WCFB Message Board

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              • #8
                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by TurboProject:
                I have a hypertech programmer for the 3.4, could I use the cable that comes w/ that? It goes from ALDL to I think rs232. But I doubt it has the right circuitry to make the conversion to go to a computer's serial port. Anyone know?<hr></blockquote>

                hey turboproject, where did you find a power programmer for the 3.4? I've had alot of trouble finding one. How much performance do you think you got out of it?
                \'95 3.4 metallic teal Camaro- t-boned by an F-250, sold and still runnin\' somewhere out there...<br /><br />\'96 3.8 metallic teal camaro<br /><br />...Lookin for black 6 speed Z28 or Trans Am...

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