Forged Pistons

[camaro_speedemon]

I was considering getting GTP internals dor my procharger project, but after doing some more research, I have found that it probably would be better to get forged pistons instead. I found some forged pistons at http://intense-racing.com/ for about the same price it would cost me to get GTP internals. Does anyone know if these pistons are any good?

[MrCoffee]

I dont know but I saw SLP 3800 series II headers will be available soon

[southern94]

i didn't look at the link but i know you can get Ross forged pistons through ammperormance might want to check those prices too. good luck with the buildup sounds awsome

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[RedFrk13]

Well, i think that they must be good because intense is running them in their project car. A turbo 3800 in a GTP. It ran 11.6 its first time at the track with 15 pounds of boost. They are running the 8.0 pistons.

I'll find the post on Club GP.

[RedFrk13]

Intense Turbo Car

MrCoffee, those headers are only for FWD 3800's!

camaro_speedemon, the only problem is any piston made for an L67 will not work with L36 connecting rods. You would need to get L67 connecting rods as well, but they are stronger.

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[camaro_speedemon]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by RedFrk13:
Intense Turbo Car

MrCoffee, those headers are only for FWD 3800's!

camaro_speedemon, the only problem is any piston made for an L67 will not work with L36 connecting rods. You would need to get L67 connecting rods as well, but they are stronger.

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I know, I just realized those are just the pistons. Does anyone know who makes good rods as well?

[viper98885]

I recently had Manley make a set of forged aluminum rods for my 3.4L V6 and I am working with another board member on getting some rods made for the 3.8L.

As far as pistons, we carry Ross pistons which you can have made to any spec that you want.

[camaro_speedemon]

I was thinking, what If I got the stock rods for the L67 and had them cryo-treated, I was doing some research and it seems to be fairly good at strengthening metal. I'm trying to rebuild my engine budget friendly, do you this would be a good alternative? I want to be able to run at least 15 or 16 lbs boost during track runs. Do you think the cryo-treated rods will hold up?

[DEE97GTP]

Yes, they are top quality. And the intense car just got through running an 11.176@125.01 ;) They run the 8.0:1 pistons because they are pushing 18psi of boost. However they broke 1 motor mount and cracked the other. So it might have had more in it.

DEE

[WickEdSix9838]

if you want aluminum rods, call my dad, Abbott Racing Heads, 432-558-2841, he is a dealer on Groden Rods which i think is the best aluminum rod on the market and when u order them, they dont have rods on the shelf, you give them all the specs and they build however many rods you want, they make REALLY nice rods, they are proven to be stronger, lighter, and last longer than the Manley aluminum rods...

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[viper98885]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by WickEdSix9838:
if you want aluminum rods, call my dad, Abbott Racing Heads, 432-558-2841, he is a dealer on Groden Rods which i think is the best aluminum rod on the market and when u order them, they dont have rods on the shelf, you give them all the specs and they build however many rods you want, they make REALLY nice rods, they are proven to be stronger, lighter, and last longer than the Manley aluminum rods...

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What are some of the specs for those rods. I don't know of any companies whose rods are lighter with the same strength than Manley.

[WickEdSix9838]

they are made out of a different alloy than other aluminum rods that is lighter and stronger, the caps dont have that zig/zag to center them they have pins instead, my dad's got a customer that ran the rods 380 1/4 mile passes in a small block with these rods, he pulled them pins out, resized the rod, and ran them about another 50 passes and a rocker arm broke and tore the motor all to hell, the guy turns his motor about 8000-8500 RPMs, my dad could tell you more about them but they are some bad *** rods...

[navyblue2000]

lighter rods are good.

how much lighter are we talking, forged aluminum vs forged iron/steel vs cast iron/steel?

less rotating mass = more hp...but i guess the cost vs hp is also important.

what's the difference in cost?

[John D.]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by DEE97GTP:
Yes, they are top quality. And the intense car just got through running an 11.176@125.01 ;) They run the 8.0:1 pistons because they are pushing 18psi of boost. However they broke 1 motor mount and cracked the other. So it might have had more in it.

DEE<hr></blockquote>

WHOA, I hadn't heard about that yet Dee.

[WickEdSix9838]

i cant remember exactly right now but aluminum rods are around 300-500 grams lighter than steel rods which is a lot, its worth the money for a race motor but not really a street motor because u will have to change them ever once to avoid breaking them, steel would last a lot longer but the motor wouldnt accelerate as fast...