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    September issue of GMHTP 3.8 Throttle body/ MAF and underdrive pulley upgrades

    If some of you were lucky enough to pick up a newstand issue of Popular Hotrodding Magazine (October I believe), you recieved a free issue of GMHTP. A break through was found in this magazine, not world bounding breakthrough mind you but one that is enough to keep us moving in the right direction and let us know that hey, there is someone out there looking out for us.

    It just so happens that here in the Southern Cali, the mecca of rice rockets, boring European style and dull luxury, and the probably fakest place on earth, that some minor modifacations for our hardly known, if known at all, 3.8's were developed. All I have to say is holly bageezas.
    I can't seem to find a place that's quick and easy to post pics, I guess I'm not computer savvy yet, maybe someone could help me out and I'll post the whole article with pictures of the throttle body and also the dyno chart. I'll go ahead and give you guys the comparison though. Check out the torque at 2000 RPM, that's what made me open my eyes like a kid on christmas morning. The car is a 96 with SLP cold air induction, headers, and custom exhaust.

    Stock Stage 2 Stock Stage 2
    Engine TB TB TB TB
    RPM HP HP TQ TQ
    2000 63 76 166 201
    2200 80 86 191 205
    2400 89 95 194 207
    2600 96 103 195 207
    2800 104 111 195 208
    3000 113 120 198 211
    3200 122 130 201 213
    3400 131 139 203 214
    3600 139 148 203 216
    3800 148 158 205 217
    4000 157 167 205 218
    4200 164 174 205 216
    4400 169 176 202 211
    4600 173 179 197 205
    4800 173 179 189 196
    5000 173 178 182 187
    5200 170 176 172 178
    5400 168 173 164 168
    5600 164 169 154 158
    5800 NA NA NA NA

    At the end of the article it says they offer a billet adjustable fuel pressure regulator and pulleys as well, pulleys??? I thought we were already underdriven? D@mn, might have to check that out too. You can contact Ram Air Technology
    by dialing (714) 901-9101 or by mail
    15561 Product Ln. Unit D1
    Huntington Beach, CA 92649

    Enjoy, Michael
    1 of a kind<p>Red 97 Camaro<p>Modifications: <br />SLP CAI, RK Sport Headers, Car Sound High Flow Cat, 3\" piping<br />3\" Steel driveshaft, SFC\'s, Panhard Rod, MAC Torque Arm<br />Manual Fan Switch<p>Best E/T:<p>60\' 2.152<br />330 6.271<br />1/8th 9.704<br />MPH 71.93
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    I also found a link to it but haven't researched what it is that they offer:
    Ram Air Technology [img]smile.gif[/img]
    1997 Red M5 3.8, 3.23 Gears<br /><b>Performance Mods:</b><br />SLP CAI, RKSport Headers, 3\" Catco Cat, 3\" Cut-Out, SLP S-Pipe, 3\"I-Pipe & over-axle (Custom from shop), Hooker Headers Muffler, Hooker Header Tips.<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/redrider45\" target=\"_blank\"><b>My Ride</b></a>

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    • #3
      Wow.

      I'll port your 96-98 TB and install a new calibrated MAF sensor for $250.
      Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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      • #4
        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
        Wow.

        I'll port your 96-98 TB and install a new calibrated MAF sensor for $250.        <hr></blockquote>

        You have a MAF calibration device at home?

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        • #5
          Think this will fit our cars?

          Ultra Flow Throttle Body
          1997 Red M5 3.8, 3.23 Gears<br /><b>Performance Mods:</b><br />SLP CAI, RKSport Headers, 3\" Catco Cat, 3\" Cut-Out, SLP S-Pipe, 3\"I-Pipe & over-axle (Custom from shop), Hooker Headers Muffler, Hooker Header Tips.<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/redrider45\" target=\"_blank\"><b>My Ride</b></a>

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          • #6
            No, I just use a 99+ MAF Sensor.
            Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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            • #7
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
              No, I just use a 99+ MAF Sensor.<hr></blockquote>

              How are you going to fit one on a 95 or a 96?

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              • #8
                Is this what you guys are talking about?

                http://www.ramairtech.com/cgi-bin/pg...gi?Pro=49&Pur=

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                • #9
                  I drill the hole bigger and remove the post.. lots of custom work.. Not easy at all and I don't recomend the average joe try it.. It's not a simple bolt on mod. You have to be very careful with the MAF area to avoid vacuum leaks.
                  Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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                  • #10
                    Sorry, I meant something else. 97+ have 2 screws holding it, and 95&96 have 3 screws holding it. Are you going to use JB weld or some tape to hold it in place since the screw holes won't line up?

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                    • #11
                      Magnus, I'm very interested in replacing the MAF, I plan on porting my TB over the winter when I do some intake and head work. All you need to do is replace it with a 99+? Why would that make a difference?
                      1996 Silver Camaro, Y87, M5, cammed..<br />N/A Best Time: 14.012 @ 98.59<br />195 rwhp / 233 ft-lbs b/f heads/cam<br />Check out my site <a href=\"http://silver3800.cz28.com/\" target=\"_blank\">http://silver3800.cz28.com/</a>

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                      • #12
                        i called the shop so i could take a lil trip down that way to check it all out. they never caled me back i guess i'll try again
                        My ride: <br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/youngdeezy\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/youngdeezy</a><br />98 Firebird 3.8L A4<br />Mods:80 seires flow master muffler<br />dual exhaust 3\" pipes,whisper lid<br />k&N filter,3.42 gears and LSD, 180 thermostat, free ram air mod & 1/2\" raised air box + some apperance mods<br />1/4 mile 15.8 @ 85mph<p>I\'ll see you in the traffic...

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                        • #13
                          Is there an advantage to doing this to a 99+ F-Body?
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                          • #14
                            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by RedFlare45:
                            I also found a link to it but haven't researched what it is that they offer:
                            Ram Air Technology [img]smile.gif[/img]                             <hr></blockquote>

                            "RAT will no longer be selling directly to the public. The only available performance component is the Ultra Flow throttle body/MAF. We will be selling out the remaining stock of exhaust systems ($349) as well as a few prototype systems. Are you looking for the ultimate in handling, try our protptype coil-over system for the GTP. The RAT exclusive features adjustable ride height, adjustable Konit struts and even camber/castor plates. Be the only one on your block (or in the world to have such a system. We have a few Grand Am FloSport air intakle systems still available from the last production run (just $129)."
                            Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

                            "Mid-life crisis? I'm way beyond that!"

                            1996 Black Firebird GTxxxRam Air V6 w/ M5xxxwww.FirebirdGT.com

                            Raven

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                            • #15
                              We discussed this a while ago. The Oct issue has been out since the end of August. I've had the whole article online for a while.

                              Page 1: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ma5ornelas/article1.jpg
                              Page 2: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ma5ornelas/article2.jpg
                              Page 3: http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ma5ornelas/article3.jpg

                              For some reason right after the article came out they stopped selling. I emailed them twice with no response.

                              Hope you guys don't take this as a flame, I'm just updating you guys.

                              [ October 01, 2002: Message edited by: Dojo2000 ]</p>
                              ~Derrick <a href=\"http://www.appstate.edu/~do54457/\" target=\"_blank\"><i>My Webpage</i></a><br /><b>\'96 3.8L V6 M5 Firebird Y87</b> | <b>162.8 RWHP</b> / <b>196.7 RWTQ</b> <br /><b>•</b> SLP CAI <b>•</b> <a href=\"http://tech.firebirdv6.com/y87.html\" target=\"_blank\"><b>Y87</b> Package</a> - 3.23s <b>•</b> 180º thermo w/ fan switch <b>•</b> TB spacer from DEE<br />1991 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4x4

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