Wanting a big cam = )

[Jordan Holland]

Hey, everyone.

For awhile I've been planning some pretty extreme modifications to my 98 Firebird. The cost estimations for it all were getting kind of... ridiculous... but, anyway. I was about to just start looking at getting TA, but I managed to throw a rod in my 6. :mad: Don't ask. It wasn't easy to do. So, now that there's a big hole in the block (among lots of other damage), I'm just rebuilding the engine. I'm probably gonna get an old block and bore it out as much as possible, and put some oversized pistons in it and all that fun sort of stuff. :D

So, since I'm putting so much into the engine rebuild, I figured... hey... what the heck... might as well spend more. So, the first thing I want to do is get a cam that will make the car lope like a... uhhh... loping.. car... I guess. I'm looking for some performance gains as well, but the idea here is to mainly get the lope. Performance will come with other mods. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]

There's a video clip around here somewhere of a Camaro that did this. I wanna. So, does anyone know where I might go about finding one of these? Also, what is this going to do to the stability of the motor? I'm expecting there to be 50 million other things I'll have to do to keep the engine from completely blowing up like a nuke. It's never simple enough to do just one thing to your car these days. :mad: ::sighs::

- Jordan

[slacker69]

the cam that u heard in the video was ironman on the board and his cam is a 210/214 cam with a 113 lobve seperation he got his from crower and its a regrid i would wait until compcams gets more cames back in cause a cam from a pure cam core is much better than a regrind the lifts will be much better cause the ramps are alot more steep.

[pgriffith]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slacker69:
the cam that u heard in the video was ironman on the board and his cam is a 210/214 cam with a 113 lobve seperation he got his from crower and its a regrid i would wait until compcams gets more cames back in cause a cam from a pure cam core is much better than a regrind the lifts will be much better cause the ramps are alot more steep.<hr></blockquote>

Slacker you have mail.

[Magnus]

fwiw I called COMP and did some asking.

They have 20'ish cams on back order and have 411 cored ordered.

As you know they were supposed to be there late last month.

[Dominic]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
fwiw I called COMP and did some asking.

They have 20'ish cams on back order and have 411 cored ordered.

As you know they were supposed to be there late last month.<hr></blockquote>

And people claim the 3.8L isnt a hot engine to modify [img]smile.gif[/img] I think its just getting started!

[pgriffith]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
fwiw I called COMP and did some asking.

They have 20'ish cams on back order and have 411 cored ordered.

As you know they were supposed to be there late last month.<hr></blockquote>

Who did you speak with? manager/supervisor?

[jonny985]

I'm looking to spend the least possible and get the most gains. My engine is pretty old, 125k and I don't really want to put too much money into it if will just blow up in another 50k or so.

I had planned on a COMP and springs/pushrods but that added up to nearly $700 as opposed to keeping valve train stock and getting a $125 regrind.

I am looking more and more into regrinds but is the grind that Ironman the most agressive that you can go with a regrind?

How could you get more drivability out of a regrind, I don't really want to stall out in traffic with the AC on even if I don't use the AC too much anyway?

[pgriffith]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by jonny985:
I'm looking to spend the least possible and get the most gains. My engine is pretty old, 125k and I don't really want to put too much money into it if will just blow up in another 50k or so.

I had planned on a COMP and springs/pushrods but that added up to nearly $700 as opposed to keeping valve train stock and getting a $125 regrind.

I am looking more and more into regrinds but is the grind that Ironman the most agressive that you can go with a regrind?

How could you get more drivability out of a regrind, I don't really want to stall out in traffic with the AC on even if I don't use the AC too much anyway?<hr></blockquote>


DO NOT GET A REGRIND. I mild compcam will perform better and have more drivability then a regrind. I got a regrind from crower they said the most aggressive they could do is 196/196 496/496@ 1.6 rocker. Very very whimpy cam and I am stuck with it until comp gets more cores. Do not do a regrind. Get a comp cam with less duration and less lift, then keep stock valvtrain.

[black98V6]

well seems to me that to spin the motor faster you must have a better valve train by better I mean.. it must be able to handle more force and moving faster with out something shearing off.. also the springs and retainers would have to be improved so they slam the valve back closed fast enough so the valve doesn't hit the piston.. thus bending the valve.. and causing all kinds of other problems.. I honestly wouldn't worry about any accessories on the front coming loose or anything like that..

now of course to get more use out of this you need to make the motor breath better with improved heads, and cam ....

[TheBlackSwordsMan]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>DO NOT GET A REGRIND. I mild compcam will perform better and have more drivability then a regrind. I got a regrind from crower they said the most aggressive they could do is 196/196 496/496@ 1.6 rocker. Very very whimpy cam and I am stuck with it until comp gets more cores. Do not do a regrind. Get a comp cam with less duration and less lift, then keep stock valvtrain.
<hr></blockquote>

its not as whimpy as the stock cam tho

[SLOWBRAEATER]

pgriffith probably means that rather than tear your old cam out to put a regrind in then later tear things all back out for the comp you might as well just wait for the good one and do it right the first time.